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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:32 am
by swatter555
fiveoboy01 wrote:I personally am not ripping on him for his bike choice. I don't think it's the best idea. A cheaper bike can be bought to learn on and that's a smarter thing to do. The extra $ can be spent at a quality riding school. I think if a person is VERY careful, they could go with a 600 SS for a first bike and be OK. I know I rode a 2001 R6 a good bit one summer(it was my roommate's) and I never had an "incident". Looking back, I guess I was lucky and I'm glad I didn't start on something like that.

But the main reason Verm is getting ripped apart here:

Being that he completely ignores every piece of advice given to him by EXPERIENCED riders on this board and basically says "shove it up your "O Ring", I'm going to do it my way." He will say anything to justify whatever the new thing is he's going to do today.

He constantly talks about track days, dragging a knee, etc. Concepts which are reserved for riders WAAAAYY past his skill level. Yet when he's told he should stick to basics, he starts talking about, you guessed it, track days and racing school.

Taking a new bike and wanting to do stupid modifications to it which will only screw it up and increase HP, neither of which a beginning biker needs.

All he breathes and eats is "racing, racing, racing" but won't go buy a shop manual and show the ambition to do basic bike maintenance.

He doesn't "take the abuse". He only hears what he wants to hear.

You have to take small steps before you can run.

Think about who you'd laugh at more at a trackday:

A nice, humble apparent beginner on something like an SV650 or EX500. He bought used leathers and the bike is used too. He wanted to have $ left over to pay for some instruction. He's trying to learn but he's not very fast. He's eating up advice from the experienced riders like there's no tomorrow. Slowly he improves but it takes a while.

Some DOOD on a brand new GSX-R 600 with full racing leathers that costed half the price of the bike. He goes on and on about dragging his knee in the parking lot, trail braking, his new TRE. But he's a mess on the track and can't turn a lap time to save his butt. He won't listen to any advice and has a bunch of excuses for his poor performance. But damn he looks cool though.

Soon, the guy on the EX/SV is whacking the pants off "rossi" on his gixxer.

I know who I'd laugh at harder...

So basically yeah, I agree with mintbread here.

I dont think you have a clue as to how VX would actually do at a track. Maybe he would ride within his abilities and improve, maybe not. Why pre-judge him and assume he will do terrible and then go off on him about a hypothetical??

I think we need to tend our own backyards here.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:36 am
by camthepyro
JCViper528
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:53 am Post subject:
I was just reading the European bike mag TWO and saw the Suzuki GSR 600. Looks great for a naked bike. take a look http://motorbikes.tiscali.co.uk/display ... 3?id=23438

Dunno if it will make it here though...
That looks like an exact copy of the 599 to me. But that's good I guess, I like the 599.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:31 am
by dieziege
New choice for Verm!

Dual Rotors...
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Beak nose...
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Side exhaust...
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Full fairing.... (and an R on the side)
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Digital speedo...
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OK, I know...not enough black...but I thought it was cool. Actually...I'd like one for myself if truth be told, but they aren't gonna sell 'em until June. :(

It's a Hyosung GT250R...

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:38 am
by MontyCarlo
dieziege wrote:New choice for Verm!


It's a Hyosung GT250R...
Cute bike. I heard that Hyosung makes the engine for the Suzuki SV650s, if so the Comet 650 might be a great bike for the $$.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:22 am
by Joe Rocket=>
Is the comet 250R going to be sold in the U.S.A.?

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:32 am
by dieziege
Yes... in June.

http://www.hyosungus.com/GT250R.html

The fact that it'll be June sucks because I am planning to buy a Ninja 250 on Monday and the way my luck goes I'll find out that the Hyosung fits me perfectly and costs $300 less or something. :laughing:

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:39 am
by Joe Rocket=>
If I were starting out I would get the Comet. It's a pretty sweet looking bike and it would probably make a good track bike too.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:45 am
by Ninja Geoff
I want the GT650R. Decent styling, without any ugly designs. It needs some undertail exhaust though...

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:52 am
by camthepyro
That looks like it'd be a good cheap bike company. Kinda like Kia or Hyundai is for cars.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:54 am
by Joe Rocket=>
The only thing I don't like about it is the gauge cluster looks cheap to me.