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MotoF150 wrote:higher end sport bikes have a two stage clutch that works TOTALLY different than the clutch on ur generic cruiser bike! The clutch will freewheel at a high rpm, this protects the clutch from smoking, overheating and shattering meaning to a simple mind that has no high end intellectuial knowledge like I do that the clutch plates are not connected to the primary, instead the clutch basket is making a physicial bond direct to the primary simular to how a lock up torque converter works on ur wife's mini van. I am an expert and I do admit I have a problem dumbing down my words so you public school educated rednecks could understand. Thank You, MotoF150

Would that be the Slipper Clutch that you're failing to describe with your superior intellect

Gees man, if you're atleast gonna pretend to know what you're on about, have the damned sense to use wikipedia or google first, else you'll just end up looking like a mentally challenged. too late

Also assuming it is the Slipper Clutch which is the only major different clutch design to filter onto production sportsbikes, it does none of this

The clutch will freewheel at a high rpm, this protects the clutch from smoking, overheating and shattering

All it does is make transmission of power 1 directional, so the engine can apply accelerating torque to the wheel, but not apply decellerating torque to the wheel (ie negating the effect of engine braking)

Quite frankly I'd be amazed if they put one on the v-strom 1000. Although I'm too lazy to check and could be wrong.

Lastly, why would a free wheeling clutch prevent heat buildup when fully engaged at high speed, thats ludicrous. Clutches mostly build heat when only partially engaged (see high school physics text books about friction), and why would you have it at anything other than fully engaged at prolonged high engine speed?


On a side note
This thread was made for people who LOVE the m50 for its strengths, if you don't have anything constructive to say, prehaps its worth considering not saying anything at all



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After a quick bit of thinking, I suddenly realised what you're describing is pretty much the inverse of a Centrifugal clutch. It is quite possible you've misunderstood the technology of a 50cc moped, and added your unique brand of mechanical misinterpretation.

...well back on topic...ignore motof150 - he's just a bitter old man that doesn't know what type of bike he wants. he says he wants a sporty bike yet talks about buying vstar then saying he wants a dual sport. lol and he cares so much about how people perceive him that he's afraid to just ride. and for an expert he knows very little about motorcycles in general. sometimes i wonder if he even owns any.
......doh ....back on topic

I went for a ride after installing a jardine 2-1 and thunder air kit. I didn't get to go for a long ride...just around the neighborhood but everything feels much smoother. I had the pipes on without the air kit and i thought it was pretty loud but putting on the air kit seemed to have quieted it down.

I have a tfi for fuel management which i'll tweak. I'm a bit on the conservative side(lean) compared to what dobeck(tfi) recommended. This weekend and next week should be warmer and I can go for a longer ride.

I'm done with mods for a while. .....i think

Face it. MotoF150 = bread.

anarchy wrote:you could have gotten the new, black m50 you wanted, with windshield, for $7303 otd. instead you chose the used, blue m50, without windshield, for $6800 otd. add a $400 windshield to the used bike you bought, the price now comes to $7200. basically you saved $100 buying a used bike instead of a new bike.

maybe i'm missing something here, but it sounds like you're complaining the first dealer didn't give you a very good deal. to me it sounds like the second dealer didn't give you much of a deal either - you drove 100 miles to save $100, getting a used bike instead of a new bike...

I'm sorry, it was 6300, not 6800. I got mixed up with my math from all the crap with the other dealership. Pompano Pats also didn't charge all of that documentation BS either. The price, plus sales tax... Here's the key, good day.

And it only had 1190 miles on it. It wasn't used-used. more like, Broken-in.

daviking wrote: And it only had 1190 miles on it. It wasn't used-used. more like, Broken-in.

how old? If it's pretty old then it's more likely it's not used-used and more like used-ignored. Which means make sure you play nice and make Real Good with the servicing and winterising and such.

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MotoF150 wrote:The Suzuki Boulevard M50 is a cheap generic POS!

What do you guys expect when ur a cheapskate spending $4995 for a 800cc bike? YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR! a cheap Chinese made engine with plastic valve covers and fenders! Horsepower is only 45 at 6200 rpm! Other bikes that same size put out 55 HP at 3200 rpm!

What happens if you do rev that M50 to 6200 rpm? It shakes and vibrates and feels like its going to fall apart!

Maybe you guys should wake up and tell the truth and be honest and stop misleading everybody making them think its a great bike!

First, it is NOT generic. Generic means that it isn't a brand name. Suzuki IS a brand name.

Second, like I clearly stated in at least one other topic, the engine is NOT Chinese made. It is made in Japan. I guess you can't read well.

Third, my '02 Intruder 800 (same engine) put out about 55 HP. The M50 should put out at least that much, if not more. I don't know where you get your figures from, but you are wrong.

Fourth, I revved my Intruder to redline many times and it never had excessive shaking and vibration.

Fifth, misleading? How is anyone else misleading anyone? Everyone else here says that their M50 is a good bike. Their experiences with the M50 way outnumber yours. In fact, you are the ONLY one that says different.

So, all of these people here are lying and misleading, and you are the only one telling the truth? That's the biggest bunch of BS I've ever heard.

Maybe it's YOU that is misleading people. When a person finds no one anywhere that agrees with him, then it could be a good indication that they are wrong.

Face it, Moto, YOU are wrong.

LOL, what a great thread to re-start reading this forum. I've been away for a while and this is one of the first threads I read...Very very funny

Ok, so I love my M50 and join you guys here. It is a lot of fun to ride, will post pics soon...

CYCLE WORLD, AUGUST 2005 ISSUE TESTED THE SUZUKI M50 page 60 in the magazine "HORSEPOWER: 45.7 @ 6200 RPM" 1/4 MILE is 14.29 sec @ 88.91 MPH THATS S-L-O-W !

CYCLE WORLD, AUGUST 2005 ISSUE TESTED THE SUZUKI M50 page 60 in the magazine "HORSEPOWER: 45.7 @ 6200 RPM" 1/4 MILE is 14.29 sec @ 88.91 MPH THATS S-L-O-W !

I've already posted the dyno charts my friend....now its ur turn to tell me how that is slow in comparison to the bikes in its weight class.

http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/roadte ... 00_custom/
Quarter-mile acceleration: 14.29 sec., 90.9 mph
thats an 1100 w/ roughly the same quarter mile time

http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/roadte ... aero_1100/
Quarter-mile acceleration: 15.13 sec., 85.7 mph
another 1100

lol....ur the idiot that didn't do the research.....
cheers!