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Road etiquette.. tips on allowing another biker to pass

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:35 pm
by backrevin
Stuff they don’t teach at MSF…you’re experienced, I am not; you come up behind me, single lane highway and you want to pass ...what are you expecting me to do?

….move to the right and let you lane share to pass?

…move to the right and wave you through & lane share?

…an experienced rider would never lane share to pass?

…keep riding and let you make a decision when to make the pass?

…something other than the above?

I am not a slow poke on the road..but recognize that experienced riders can move along safely at speeds I am not yet ready for. I would like to know the correct/best etiquette in the situation described.

Thanks.

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:39 pm
by Sev
Usually, a good biker will change lanes around you to pass, this in enouragable. However in some situations this is not viable, during turns, single lane highway with oncoming traffic. If you feel the lane is wide enough, and you feel safe having the guy pass in the same lane, move over to the right, slow down a little and wave for a pass. Typically I'll only do this with my friends though, people I trust and ride with often.

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:40 pm
by Jamers!
if i was comming up on someone and wanted to pass, well if if it was in the middle of no where i might just go to the other than and zoom by, but if thats not an option i would judge where the rider was in his lane, see if he moved to one side and then pass him in the part of the lane that was open. Though if there are any turn outs or areas ahead where he can move over for me ill wait for those.


JWF

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:59 pm
by JCS
I will not share my lane with anyone. Period. If they need to get by I will slow down, move over and wave them by but I will not share my lane. You never know what the other person will do. Always leave yourself an out. If someone is trying to share your space, you have no escape route.

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 2:00 pm
by Gadjet
If I'm passing - I'll wait for a safe time to do so, then move over into the other lane to pass, just as if I was passing a car.

If I'm being passed - I'm going to hold my line and expect the rider passing me to move into the adjacent lane and go around me when it is safe to do so.

lane sharing to pass another rider is really stupid, as it leaves no room for either rider to avoid any obstacles/potholes/debris/what-have-you that may show up in the lane.

I was passed by a jacka$$ on a Harley touring bike last week on my way home from work while I was negotiating an exit ramp - he went screaming by me at about 100kph on the inside of the lane, just as I was about to apex my turn (as an fyi, I was doing about 80kph, posted exit speed of 60kph). Not only did I find this to be incredibly offensive and dangerous, but it was also rather amusing watching him wobble through the curve, trying to scrub off his excess speed without hitting the sand on the edges and flying into the dirt.

Re: Road etiquette.. tips on allowing another biker to pass

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:34 pm
by Kal
To be honest I'm not expecting you to do anything, I assume you havent seen me or heard me and plan my overtake accordingly at a point where I have good visibility.

As the person being overtaken, and I was caught twice last week between mirror checks, if I see someone coming down the whiteline (lane splitting is kind of legal here) I'll shoulder check left and then move over to the left. (Keeping in mind you guys are driving on the wrong side of the road)

When I've been passed I shoulder check right, in case the overtakers has friends not showing in my mirrors, and move back over.

Head movement for the shoulderchecks should give the other riders all the visual clues they need.

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:49 pm
by BuzZz
You just keep doing what your doing.

If I want to pass you, it is up to me to pick a safe spot, change lanes and get past, then get back into my lane. Anyone(unknown to me) coming up beside me in my lane is leaving my lane by force.

Riding with buddies is a different situation.... not applicable here. :wink:

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:55 pm
by MotoF150
when I see a crotch rocket coming behind me I just move over to the right and wave my left arm telling him that I see him and im allowing him to pass me, I know im not match for any crotch rocket, but you guys riding crotch rockets always have to rub my nose in it, you guys ride next to me, give me a long stare, then you goose the throttle and fly past me. Then when I know you guys are miles ahead of me I always look out along the side of the road for skid marks and broken plastic, don't worry I will stop and help you if your still alive.

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 2:38 am
by Mintbread
Good for you.

When I pass another rider I like to have a look at what he is riding. It is in no way "rubbing his nose" in anything.

When I reach 100 I might consider slowing down and start riding cruisers.
Now that is some nose rubbing!

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:40 am
by MotoF150
Mr Mintbread,, ha ha ha, I know why you guys on a crotch rocket give me that long stare before you blow me off the road, you guys think that im too big of a dummy to know how how fast your bike can go, or you expect me to race you, no problem, you guys don't upset me, I yield the road to you guys. I rode crotch rockets before I know the secrets, gear down and get those rpms up past 6K and they are fast, but when ur in high gear at 3K ur no faster than a 125cc street bike. The thing you guys do thats unsafe is when ur riding high speed in the left lane on a 4 lane highway you guys come up on traffic too fast and people in the right lane don't see you and they change lanes in front of you, you came up on them so fast they didn't see you, or when you guys ride a wheelie you don't hold on to the handlebars tight enough, just be carefull