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Posted: **Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:48 pm**

So I have a job. Have made $1000 or so on said job and have more money coming.

This makes for a happy Shiv.

I can finally start looking at a bike/gear (don't know which to buy first, suggestions?**) with the intention to buy and not just go "man, an old Virago for $1,000..why don't I have that money right now"?

Well now I do.

Unfortunately, my primary choices (an EX or GS) are no where to be found except new from the dealer. I check craigslist (5 towns that are close to me, one of which has a ten hour drive just to get to) daily, Cycletrader twice a week, and the classifieds every day.

Does anyone else notice that an EX or GS is no where to be found? A used one, at least. Is this because new riders like me keep snatching them up or people just like them so much that they never go to a bigger bike?

**I was thinking gear first. Primarily because if I buy the bike I know I'll be tempted to ride it without the gear on. Hell, I know I'll ride without the gear on.

Posted: **Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:58 pm**

yeah, get some gear 1st.

Posted: **Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:30 pm**

It's because the majority of morons who ('s parents) can afford new bikes buy 600+. Usually people want to buy a USED beginner bike, which is why there is a huge demand for them. Keep looking, or get something a bit older. It wouldn't destroy you to finance one either, with a decent down-payment you could easily pay off a beginner bike in a year or 2 and sell it - and you'll most certainly find a buyer, since this trend will probably continue.

Now. Time for your english lesson.

LANGUAGE CORNER
Wherefore
Somewhere, the Bard Weeps

BY EVAN JENKINS

Headline about a no-longer-prominent athlete: “O Denis, Denis! Wherefore art thou Denis?”

Comment on the fickle pop music world: “Local DJ trends come and go (wherefore art thou, acid jazz?)”

Whimsy amid wicked weather: “Wherefore art thou, Romeo? Home with his feet up by the fire, if the poor lad had any luck at all.”

All those allusions to Shakespeare are fatally flawed, as “wherefore art” cuteness almost always is.

Juliet’s plaintive “O Romeo, Romeo! Wherefore art thou Romeo?” had nothing to do with her lover’s location. “Wherefore” means “why” (in both senses — “how come?” and “for that reason.”) Juliet was asking why the fates had made Romeo part of the Montague family, with which her Capulets were locked in a virulent feud. “ ’Tis but thy name that is my enemy,” she sighs; if his name had been the Veronese equivalent of Joe Smith, the two of them could have lived happily ever after.

By and large, “wherefore” survives today only in fancy proclamations and petitions, in some legal documents, and in the expression “the whys and wherefores.” Also in stagings of H.M.S. Pinafore (“Never Mind the Why and Wherefore”) and, painfully often, in misaimed Shakespearean allusions.

Posted: **Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:01 am**

i think you hit both reasons-

most people who have a "beginner bike" have 2-3 friends say- if you look to sell your bike, i'll buy it. so they never make newspaper classifieds or craigs list.

also some people keep the 1st bike and get a second. especally if they really wanted to be sport riders. while a gixxer is a great bike for the track/twisties, its not the ultimate in grocery runs or commuting to work/school.

Posted: **Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:10 am**

Definitely what he said. Heck, I haven't even had my EX for a full season and I've already gotten "Hey, when you're ready to sell that bike, let me know..." offers

Also, once you get into the season, those really great beginner bikes are even harder to find.

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Oh where for art though EX/GS?

Oh where for art though EX/GS?