Automatic Donor

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JC Viper · #1 Unread post by **JC Viper** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:30 am

I was browsing the paper today and it seems NY is studying a law to allow NY residents to be "Presumed willing to consent removal of their organs upon their death unless it is in writing that it is not your intention to do so.

I'm now trying to find out more on this so flame away.

#2 Unread post by **9000white** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:06 am

i dont see anything wrong with it.who cares what they do with organs after you are gone.might help somebody living.the worms have enough food.

JC Viper · #3 Unread post by **JC Viper** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:11 am

Some people may have a problem with this such as maybe the doctors won't do as much to save you of course I've never known one to do that anyway. Me I mind somewhat since I believe that my whole body should return to the planet when I'm gone so that fertile land will hopefully offset my consumption of resources. Spiritual, yes... greedy no, not to me.

spinner · #4 Unread post by **spinner** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:23 am

I wouldn't mind if my liver or kidney can be used to save a life. As was said, the ground can care less what you have inside your corpse.

dieziege · #5 Unread post by **dieziege** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:55 am

I have a problem with the fact that everyone except the donor (donor's family) profits from the deal. The market for organs and tissue is huge, and everyone gets a cut... except the estate.

Until that changes I refuse to be a organ or tissue donor. The idea that the people who part out a body make tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars off it... but the estate doesn't get a dime... is unacceptable.

Nobody should be a donor until the laws and practices change. It sucks... people will die... but it is a basic rights issue. your right to your body. People have always died in the struggle to preserve human rights. It's a small cost in the long run.

Kaiser Soze · Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:08 am

I have enough life insurance... I'm not going to let someone die so my heart can rot with me in my coffin just because my estate doesn't get 8 grand for it.

Seems pretty damn selfish. Do you ask little old ladies for a dollar when you help them lift a heavy bag?

NorthernPete · Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:16 am

dieziege wrote:I have a problem with the fact that everyone except the donor (donor's family) profits from the deal. The market for organs and tissue is huge, and everyone gets a cut... except the estate.

Until that changes I refuse to be a organ or tissue donor. The idea that the people who part out a body make tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars off it... but the estate doesn't get a dime... is unacceptable.

Nobody should be a donor until the laws and practices change. It sucks... people will die... but it is a basic rights issue. your right to your body. People have always died in the struggle to preserve human rights. It's a small cost in the long run.

Its called organ donation for a reason. Maybe people should make something from it, but then you'll end up with people selling off their organs and what not...

You dont need your organs with you in the here after, why not save someone here... (It could be different in the states Im sure, with for profit medicine I suppose)

dieziege · #8 Unread post by **dieziege** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:04 pm

If it's to be a donation, then people shouldn't be able to make so much profit selling the body parts. Besides, what's the "charity" of a donation if you aren't allowed to profit otherwise? That's like saying paying taxes is a donation to government...it's just silly to call it a donation. It's a price control measure to subsidize the medical industry.

What Warren Buffet is doing for the BM Gates Foundation is a donation. Organ "donation" is legislated extortion... it's saying that the only way to prevent people who need the organs from dying is for you to give your body parts away totally free. People try to make it out as a moral obligation on you as a potential donor... but the actual moral burden is on the legislators for passing that stupid law. They are causing the deaths, not you for refusing to play along.

What's wrong with selling organs? They are yours. You can sell your hair (people do it all the time...it's used in wigs). You can sell your swimmers. What is wrong with selling your spleen?

Chris8187 · Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:25 pm

Why should that law be passed? Everyone who gets a driver's license is specifically asked if they want to be an organ donor. If someone wants to donate, check the box. You think this law is to help more people get organs? I don't think so. Just another thing to make more money for lobbyists and companies that do this sort of work. The family of the deceased should get something. The reason I think this is just to make more money is because the government has stupid crap like the death tax. Anything to make another dollar.

Kaiser Soze · Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:49 pm

Who gets what when an organ is donated? You're making it sound like someone harvests it and sells it for $40,000. The doctors get paid for doing the work I imagine... what other money changes hands?