Got my permit today!

[DieMonkeys]

And I may get my bike this weekend ('80 Suzuki GS550E).

When I took the test for the permit I got three questions wrong (but right according to what I learned in the MSF). When coming to a stop use both brakes (test said use rear only), when starting the bike disengage clutch (test said engage brake, which I guess could be right but I've heard of a bike that won't start without the clutch disengaged), and that when coming to a stop you should downshift when braking (test said when decelerating, I was taught to hit the clutch, hit the front brake, hit the rear brake, then downshift in the MSF course). Oh well, I still passed.

[jonnythan]

And I may get my bike this weekend ('80 Suzuki GS550E).

When I took the test for the permit I got three questions wrong (but right according to what I learned in the MSF). When coming to a stop use both brakes (test said use rear only), when starting the bike disengage clutch (test said engage brake, which I guess could be right but I've heard of a bike that won't start without the clutch disengaged), and that when coming to a stop you should downshift when braking (test said when decelerating, I was taught to hit the clutch, hit the front brake, hit the rear brake, then downshift in the MSF course). Oh well, I still passed.

Why would you want the clutch disengaged when you start the bike?

If you really trust that neutral light, I suppose you can.

[DieMonkeys]

And I may get my bike this weekend ('80 Suzuki GS550E).

When I took the test for the permit I got three questions wrong (but right according to what I learned in the MSF). When coming to a stop use both brakes (test said use rear only), when starting the bike disengage clutch (test said engage brake, which I guess could be right but I've heard of a bike that won't start without the clutch disengaged), and that when coming to a stop you should downshift when braking (test said when decelerating, I was taught to hit the clutch, hit the front brake, hit the rear brake, then downshift in the MSF course). Oh well, I still passed.

Why would you want the clutch disengaged when you start the bike?

If you really trust that neutral light, I suppose you can.

I wouldn't trust the neutral light which is why I would disengage the clutch by holding the clutch handle all the way down the starting the bike and then putting it into first, release the clutch to engage it then away I go. Unless disengaging the clutch means to release the clutch handle.

[Skel3tor1]

I'm a bit confused. If you went through the MSF, why did you have to take the test for your permit? Does your MSF not grant a motorcycle license upon successful completion?

[jonnythan]

I wouldn't trust the neutral light which is why I would disengage the clutch by holding the clutch handle all the way down the starting the bike and then putting it into first, release the clutch to engage it then away I go. Unless disengaging the clutch means to release the clutch handle.

I thought it was the other way around, but now you have me wondering.

After googling, I was wrong. Looks like I equated "releasing" and "disengaging" in my head for some reason.

[MakeCarsStandSTill]

Sounds really really weird, why didnt you get your license already after the course?

[bok]

a lot of times the permit tests are written in a way to trip you up and don't mesh with best practices.

like here the training book the government put out said never shift in a low speed from a stop sign turn but the permit test said that's what you should do. and the book said following distance should be 2 seconds and the test gave you the option of 1 3, 4, 10 or something along those lines so if you only knew the book you would get messed up.

also the wording like that of SATs and such is not always how you would write it or say it and that can mess you up.

at the end of the day, you passed and you can start your motorcycle properly and the only people who ever remember how they did on the tests are those who aced it. doesn't make you a better rider, just a better test taker.

now get a bike for crying out loud

[jonnythan]

I completed the course over two weeks ago. I still have 2-4 weeks to wait to get my license.

In NY, the course completion paperwork is mailed to the DMV, and they take 4-6 weeks to process it and mail my Road Test Waiver to you. Then you can take your permit and road test waiver to the DMV to get your license.

[MakeCarsStandSTill]

I dont remember having to take a permit test or whatever though?

[DieMonkeys]

In the state of South Carolina you DO NOT get your permit or license after completing the Beginner's MSF Course. However if you take the Intermediate MSF Course you get a waiver to take to the DMV so you don't have to take the road test there, but you need your own bike for the course. It's the same way in Virginia, otherwise I would have gone up to my dad's house for the weekend and done the course up there.