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I need a little help guy. I need help to convince my mom a little bikes aren't that bad. She thinks these like death machines. They are if your inexperienced and stupid with it. I say there almost just as dangerous as those guys who ride there tour de france bicycles on the road all the time. Can you guys give me some good arguments or a site or something. I know also it's not the rider but the people around then like drivers and all but still. They think so many crashes happen all the time. They hear about those cuz that's something bad that happened they don't report the good side a lot. You know what I mean? So any help?

Need to feed us a few more basics. How old? Number of years (car) driving experience? Living at home? Are your parents supporting you? In school, got a job, etc, etc, that kind of stuff. We'll tailor our answers accordingly.

big bad brad momma giving you a hard time?

If my memory serves me right you're only 16 right? Bad news is she owns you till you're 18. In the mean time try showing some responsability by being a good driver and it might be eaiser to get a bike when you're 18.

jstark47 wrote:Need to feed us a few more basics. How old? Number of years (car) driving experience? Living at home? Are your parents supporting you? In school, got a job, etc, etc, that kind of stuff. We'll tailor our answers accordingly.

Well, I'm 16, yes, live at home, I'm in school. I have my parent pay for car insurance (got car for free) but I'll pay for bike and bike insurance. If I can. I'm shooting for those good grades so I can get a a discount on insurance, car. I don't know if it works on bike. I'm also trying to setup a deal like if I get a ticket or or like 2 I'm done.

You're wrong about road bikes. Yeah they are less safe than the bikes that stay off the road but generally accidents that happen with them happen below 20 mph and severe accidents aren't nearly as common as motorcycle accidents.

They have the best two wheeled avoidance manuever

"Oh my God that car is coming right at me!" *jumps from bike*

"Whew! That was a close one. Let's see, scraped knee, torn spandex and a scratch on my $2200 lemond... those bastards!" *stews inside until he realizes that he's outdoors in spandex and returns to pedaling away from people as fast as he can*

Your mom is right in some ways. Bike are dangerous and even the most experienced rider can fall and injure himself. You're right in that you have to watch the drivers around you but it is also the rider as you have to be looking ahead on the road and you have to be smooth in your control.

I don't know what state you are in but I know here in PA you can't ride alone until you are 18. You'll have to check your state laws though. If you have a law like this in your state and you know some one older who rides (who would be a good role model) you could see if he wouldn't mind riding with you all the time. You and he could then sit down with your mom and talk about the responsibilities of riding and he could calm your mom down a little.

My cousin and uncle both ride. Cousin is in the process of buying a bike right now. I can only get a bike permit so I think I will need a riding buddy, not a 100% though.

I had trouble convincing my mom to let me ride too, so I bought an old motorbike and worked on it all summer, I pushed it up and down the road trying to get it bump started most of the summer. When I finally did get it running, it was hard for her to say no. I had established two things, one was a working knowledge of bikes, and the other was her respect in as much as I never gave up on something I wanted and I paid my dues to get it. How could she refuse ?

Don't post your thread titles in all caps.

I think if someone wants to ride, they should have some road smarts first.

Without any driving experience to give you road smarts, your potential for trouble is much higher at 16 than it will be in a couple of more years.

Give yourself time to prove you're a good car driver, and save some cash. It could go a long way to showing your parents you are mature enough to take on the responsibilty of a motorcycle.