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California Law- And why it sucks to be a "minor"

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:23 pm
by Day Dreamer
Sigh. :(

So, just three days ago, I bought this brand new Shoei rf1000 helmet. Expensive, but sooo confortable, and much safer than the 3/4s ihad before it. I only got to use it once though, and it will now be shelfed for about 6 months.

Rest assured, this is not my choice.

About two months ago, me and a couple of friends, as well as a couple of guys I didn't know too well, met up to share a couple beers (Of course, I would NEVER ride with even the smallest amount of alcohol in me, so my bike was at home. I don't own a car, but if I did, I wouldn't have been driving it). This is by no means a rare occurence. It's summer time, and we're just trying to enjoy it to it's fullest.

Anyways, after we had gotten sufficiently soused, we decided to get some burritos, and found ourselves at the local Mexican food joint. At that point, one of the guys i didn't know so well decided that it would be a good idea to hit a parked car with a tree branch(genuis). Had I been sober, I would have immediately left the scene and the idiot behind. But I wasn't, and I did not.

At this point, I noticed a cup on the ground, and went to pick it up (note that, at this point, we had no alcohol with us) just as the police rolled up. Can you guess what was in the cup? Yup, at the very bottom of the cup were the remnants of someone else's beer.

After being taken home to my parents (the shame, the shame) Officer Po informed me that i was being ticketed for Drunk in Public as a minor. Essentially, my crime was being seventeen, had i been 21, I would not have been charged with anything. The officer also made it clear that he knew I was not involved in the aforementioned vandalism, due to eyewitness accounts.

So, today, I got to go to the happiest place on earth. I am of course refering to Torrance Juvenile & Traffic Court, which manages to beat out the dmv for the fun factor - something I had previously believed impossible.

Keep in mind that, because this was my first offence, it was only an infraction (less than a misdemeanor), and I am about to go off to college(in about a week and a half), I completely expected the judge would chastise me for my transgressions and usher me on my way.

After an ungodly long wait, I went in to see the judge. I don't remember his name, but thats a superflous detail. The judge proceeded to tell me, much to my horrified dismay, that I had two options at this point:
1) have my license suspended for a year, pay a fatty fine

Or because I was a first time offender:
2)Enroll in a drug/alcohol program with mandatory random drug tests (as someone who values his privacy, this sat particularly badly with me) for 5 weeks. And, i must surrender my license for 6 months.

I chose option two. And now I sit here wondering why. Not why i chose option two, but

WHY THE HELL DO I LOSE MY ****ING DRIVERS LICENSE FOR A "crime"(read: being seventeen) WITH NO VICTIM THAT WAS NOT COMITTED IN, NEAR OR AROUND ANY SORT OF VEHICLE?

I mean honestly, I wasn't even thinking about operating a vehicle when I was rolled upon by the La County Sheriffs Department!

Words can do the incredible amount of loss I am feeling little justice.

Anyways, thats my life at the moment. Thanks for letting me vent, and if you've made it this far, thanks for reading my post.

One final thing I would like to reitirate. I would never, ever, consider driving or riding while intoxicated, to any degree (including just one beer). If anything i strive to be as safe as reasonably and practically possible in both those activities.

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:28 pm
by VermilionX
sorry to hear that.

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:43 pm
by Shorts
Your crime is not being 17. I was 17 for a whole year and never got arrested for being 17. Your crime was being drunk in public and a minor at that. Ever gotten in trouble at college yet for MIP? Sounds like you might experience that.

Vandalizing a car with drunk friends does not go over well when your 21 either. Being drunk is not an excuse for not making the right decision. Being drunk was the reason you made a "pee" poor decision.

Quit your belly aching and take your punishment. If you aren't responsible enough to stay out of trouble when your drunk, regardless of age, you need some help remembering.

A lot of folks have done dumb things when drunk, including myself. So I'm not speaking from any high horse. Don't be made at the cop for doing his job.

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:58 pm
by Mintbread
Losing the license is a little harsh for an incident that had nothing to do with driving.

Either way, you made some poor choices.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:48 am
by High_Side
Shorts wrote:Your crime is not being 17. I was 17 for a whole year and never got arrested for being 17.
What DID you get arrested for then???? :twisted:

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:59 am
by Shorts
High_Side wrote:
Shorts wrote:Your crime is not being 17. I was 17 for a whole year and never got arrested for being 17.
What DID you get arrested for then???? :twisted:
lol hmm that reply of mine never should implied I was ever arrested.

I agree, losing a license for that long on a non-driving offense seems prety harsh. But I guess on thing, he won't make the mistake again without thinking long and hard about what happened this time around.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:55 am
by fireguzzi
At this point, I noticed a cup on the ground, and went to pick it up (note that, at this point, we had no alcohol with us) just as the police rolled up. Can you guess what was in the cup? Yup, at the very bottom of the cup were the remnants of someone else's beer.
So you like to go around parking lots picking up strange cups?












ME TOO!!!!!

I thought I was the only one who did that! WOW!
We should get together some time and go pick up cups! Or go cupping, as I like to call it. :laughing:

Good times Good times

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:11 am
by Z (fka Sweet Tooth)
Why in the world would you pick up a cup from the ground? YUCK.... your lucky it was beer in that cup and not something that would have gotten you in more trouble.

Chuck it up to experience...

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:17 am
by MrShake
I'm not so sure you are seeing this from the right perspective. Regardless of your intentions and opnions, it is illegal to drink under the age of 21, period, no question, no argument, period. To be upset that you got punnished for being CAUGHT breaking the law just seems foolish. Be thankfull that you will get your licsense back as quickly as you will and be thankfull that walking is good for you.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:31 am
by fireguzzi
Sweet Tooth wrote:Why in the world would you pick up a cup from the ground? YUCK.... your lucky it was beer in that cup and not something that would have gotten you in more trouble.

Chuck it up to experience...
I'm thinking the cup was his, but then again I was not there so.................