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My bike is so hard to get started!! any tips?

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:33 pm
by intotherain
Hello! My name is Do hun, I'm 16, and I live in Wisconsin. I started motorcycling about 2 months ago. I have been mountain biking for the past few years and I have always thought about getting a bike. I thought it would be cool to cruise down the roads at 40 mph with the wind going through my face and my clothes flapping in the wind and just to be free.

Anyways back on topic.

I took a safety course and as soon as I came out I was looking for a bike. My budget was 500-1200. (Low, I know!) I couldn't find anything. But finally after hours and hours of searching, I found a small bike company that sells 200cc, 15hp sport bikes for 1200. I bought that bike and my parents bought me a helmet, jacket, and gloves.

Anyways it starts up fine in the summer, but it wont start in the the cold weather (less than 50 F) The only way I can start it is if I kick start it for 20 minutes. This is really annoying. When I press the start button, it whines and whines but never starts. After about 5 tries the battery dies out and it does not even whine.

Does anybody know if this is a problem with the start or the battery?

Thank you!

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:41 pm
by VermilionX
oh noes. :(

sounds like you got one of those unreliable china bikes.

you should have saved more money to get a better bike but it's too late now.



well, i hope you get it running again soon.

some guys here that have exp on them said they are poorly made and service is hard to find.

still, i wish you good luck.

Re: My bike is so hard to get started!! any tips?

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:04 pm
by Shorts
Dohun wrote:Hello! My name is Do hun, I'm 16, and I live in Wisconsin. I started motorcycling about 2 months ago. I have been mountain biking for the past few years and I have always thought about getting a bike. I thought it would be cool to cruise down the roads at 40 mph with the wind going through my face and my clothes flapping in the wind and just to be free.

Anyways back on topic.

I took a safety course and as soon as I came out I was looking for a bike. My budget was 500-1200. (Low, I know!) I couldn't find anything. But finally after hours and hours of searching, I found a small bike company that sells 200cc, 15hp sport bikes for 1200. I bought that bike and my parents bought me a helmet, jacket, and gloves.

Anyways it starts up fine in the summer, but it wont start in the the cold weather (less than 50 F) The only way I can start it is if I kick start it for 20 minutes. This is really annoying. When I press the start button, it whines and whines but never starts. After about 5 tries the battery dies out and it does not even whine.

Does anybody know if this is a problem with the start or the battery?

Thank you!

I think it's just the battery giving you fits. I will suggest buying a Battery Tender and leaving it hooked up to that when you are not riding, especially if it sits for a while in the cold. The cold will take a battery's power quickly.

Try that option first. I wouldn't necessarily freak out about tangeants like the above poster just yet.

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:05 pm
by intotherain
The Crimson Rider® wrote:oh noes. :(

sounds like you got one of those unreliable china bikes.

you should have saved more money to get a better bike but it's too late now.



well, i hope you get it running again soon.

some guys here that have exp on them said they are poorly made and service is hard to find.

still, i wish you good luck.
well I can always get it running it just takes 20-35 minutes to get it up.

And also... is this normal? Right after I start the bike, I have to rev it to 5000 RPM or else it just shuts off. Like I think I need to warm it up or else the bike sputters.

Also, at stops, I need to rev the engine to at least 4000, or else the engine shuts off.

I cant wait until next fall... I am going to buy a 3000$+ USD bike... prefebly a Yamaha R6 or Ninja 600. On these bikes there are probably working backlights on the speedometer and their gas tank guage probably works, and their chokes arent probably dangling off the handlebar.



ANYWAYS

This bike is mine for the next year so I have to make the most I can out of them. Do you think a higher quality battery will solve the starting problems?

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:07 pm
by Shorts
Don't let Verm scare you with his ramblings - ignore that static.


I think it's your battery. Get it on a Battery Tender. Needing to rev it high after starting it is it needs a choke to get warmed up.

Re: My bike is so hard to get started!! any tips?

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:07 pm
by intotherain
Shorts wrote:
Dohun wrote:Hello! My name is Do hun, I'm 16, and I live in Wisconsin. I started motorcycling about 2 months ago. I have been mountain biking for the past few years and I have always thought about getting a bike. I thought it would be cool to cruise down the roads at 40 mph with the wind going through my face and my clothes flapping in the wind and just to be free.

Anyways back on topic.

I took a safety course and as soon as I came out I was looking for a bike. My budget was 500-1200. (Low, I know!) I couldn't find anything. But finally after hours and hours of searching, I found a small bike company that sells 200cc, 15hp sport bikes for 1200. I bought that bike and my parents bought me a helmet, jacket, and gloves.

Anyways it starts up fine in the summer, but it wont start in the the cold weather (less than 50 F) The only way I can start it is if I kick start it for 20 minutes. This is really annoying. When I press the start button, it whines and whines but never starts. After about 5 tries the battery dies out and it does not even whine.

Does anybody know if this is a problem with the start or the battery?

Thank you!

I think it's just the battery giving you fits. I will suggest buying a Battery Tender and leaving it hooked up to that when you are not riding, especially if it sits for a while in the cold. The cold will take a battery's power quickly.

Try that option first. I wouldn't necessarily freak out about tangeants like the above poster just yet.
Does that mean I have to take out the battery every time I stop riding? Because to take the battery out I have to take the whole side cover off, and in addition to that there is a bit off the battery holder I had to saw off and tape with ducttape because their stock battery and battery holder dont fit! So basically my battery is duct taped hardcore into my bike.

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:09 pm
by Shorts
No, you will not need to remove things you want to hook up.

The Battery Tender comes with a quick connect harness you attach to the battery. So, leave the end of the harness where you can get to it and plug it in.

Look: viewtopic.php?t=17150&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:20 pm
by flynrider
Dohun wrote:[
well I can always get it running it just takes 20-35 minutes to get it up.

And also... is this normal? Right after I start the bike, I have to rev it to 5000 RPM or else it just shuts off. Like I think I need to warm it up or else the bike sputters.
Since you are a newb, I'm going to ask an obvious question. Are you using the choke to start and warm up? The reason I ask is that your symptoms are what I'd expect if I tried starting a bike on a cold day without using the choke.

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:14 pm
by intotherain
flynrider wrote:
Dohun wrote:[
well I can always get it running it just takes 20-35 minutes to get it up.

And also... is this normal? Right after I start the bike, I have to rev it to 5000 RPM or else it just shuts off. Like I think I need to warm it up or else the bike sputters.
Since you are a newb, I'm going to ask an obvious question. Are you using the choke to start and warm up? The reason I ask is that your symptoms are what I'd expect if I tried starting a bike on a cold day without using the choke.

Of course I am using full choke.

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:18 pm
by intotherain
Shorts wrote:No, you will not need to remove things you want to hook up.

The Battery Tender comes with a quick connect harness you attach to the battery. So, leave the end of the harness where you can get to it and plug it in.

Look: viewtopic.php?t=17150&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30

Thanks I think I will try that out, by the way, the bikes in that post are SOOOOOO BIG. IT must weigh a ton! jeeze

http://www.batterymart.com/battery.mv?p ... 0139-DL-WH

Is this the one I need? Or are there any cheaper ones