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Are You F*#@ing Kidding Me!?
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:58 pm
by Dragonhawk
I stumbled into a post on another forum. I won't say where or who it was because that just isn't my style. If I wanted to flame the person, I would have posted in that forum, not here. But it was rather stunning because...
New rider. Never owned a motorcycle. He has 3 questions:
1. He wants a Yamaha R1 as a first bike.
2. He wants to know if jeans and a t-shirt are adequate riding gear.
3. He wants to know if he can carry a concealed weapon on the bike.
The scariest part of all?
PEOPLE GIVE HIM SERIOUS REPLIES IN THE THREAD!
Come on! He HAS to be joking! ... Right? ... Please? Tell me he's joking ...
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:10 pm
by Wrider
Well, on the bright side, we'll all be hearing about him soon enough in the news!
Wrider
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:27 am
by jstark47
Dragon- he's gotta be yanking peoples' chains, no way is that a serious post!!
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:55 am
by Shorts
What's wrong with carrying a concealed weapon? It is legal when you're licensed. I do it (in the USA). I am licensed. Don't even get started on the "wrongness" (I know, not a word!) of guns! Carrying in a vehicle is NOT the same as carrying when you're riding! CPL is as "outlaw" as riding motorcycles to much of the public. Don't knock it.
As for the R1 as a 1st bike and jeans and tshirt as riding gear, all newbs usually want the coolest bike. It is the process of rider education that technicalities come out as to what is a proper newbie bike as well as the right gear.
I'd give the guy a serious reply as well. Pretty much educating him on the legalities and methods for cc as well as riding gear and bike selection. Why didn't you do the same?
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:18 am
by wickedrider
Shorts,
Bright and insightful response. There are a lot of naive people out there who need serious direction. Never assume that someone is joking.
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:41 am
by Lion_Lady
Okay. A link to the thread I'm pretty sure DragonHawk refers to:
http://forum.motorcycle-usa.com/default ... 1&m=309403
And here's just one of the serious responses.
Hi smokey. I don't suppose that I will be the last to say this, but even a 600 sports machine will give far more power than a new rider should have, and furthermore will be in a package most unsuitable for learning on. A sports bike is suited for only one thing, going as fast as f***. Riding slow they are horrible. And riding reasonably slow, well within your limits is all you should be doing at first. Why buy a machine that is wholly unsuited for that purpose?
Do yourself a favour and buy an older 500 twin or something and learn on that. If you don't wad it you will be able to sell it on when you are ready for something faster. 500 twins are not that slow anyway, they will do 100mph. How much do you think you will need? This thing about 'outgrowing' a 600 is a load of crap. Few riders are able to really do justice to a sports 600, let alone an R1 or something. I'm sure I can't, and I've been riding for 44 years.
Not meaning to be nasty about this, smokey. We would like to have you with us for a while.
And another:
Well,,,,,,,, There will not be much in the way of CCW in here, so I can address that. Don't carry on your body! If you do and things get out of hand the piece may break bones if you land on it. There should be a place under the seat on a R-6 and or thay type of bike. Until some time passes and you have had a chance to learn any bike you may have, I would think leaving the piece in another safe place would be best.
In a snafu if you are down, the extra responcibility might not be easy to deal with.
The stickies will go into more detail, but no car you ever drove is like a R-6 type of bike, and this type of bike is a demanding mean, which to some riders appears to be fun, but not me...
By the way, I'm the moderator on that forum. I don't think that DragonHawk read more than the initial question.
P
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:55 am
by Gummiente
Shorts wrote:What's wrong with carrying a concealed weapon?
What's wrong with NOT carrying one, concealed or not?
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:55 am
by Flipper
Natural selection.
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:20 am
by mgdavis
What's wrong with NOT carrying one, concealed or not?
Nothing wrong with NOT carrying, but many choose to carry.
A common analogy is: Do you have a fire extingusher in your house? If so, why? Do you plan on having to use it? Most people never actually plan to use their fire extingusher, but once you need it, you're not going to have time to go down to the store and buy one.
I carry a gun because if I need to use it to defend myself, I need it NOW, and not having it could mean death or serious bodily injury to me or mine. My choice, it makes sense to me. If it doesn't to you it, I'm not bothered.
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:31 am
by CNF2002
How would he conceal it if he's just wearing jeans and a tshirt?