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eh??

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:16 pm
by thebargie
ive kinda asked this before and no one seems to be able give me an answer

so ill put it this way

when trying to find an insurance quote on the internet, nowhere does it give you the option of saying that the bike is restricted to 33bhp (i am 18 )

so i got an insurance quote on a 1997 gixxer 600 for about 1000

so if i put a restrictor kit on it and limit it to 33 bhp, will it still cost me about 1000 (exactly the same) to insure?

or will i have to phone an insurance company and do it that way?

cheers, thebargie

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:28 pm
by qwerty
Gee, i don't know how things are in thrhtr, but in texas different insurance companies calculate rates different ways. I think they know that you'll get bored with the restrictor pretty quickly and remove it without telling them, so I doubt you'll get a discount around here.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:53 pm
by Wrider
You'll have to call them either way, but if you're going to put a restrictor kit on it, why get a Gixxer 600? Why not just get something like a ninja 250 and upgrade when you can pay more for the bike's insurance.
Wrider

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:22 pm
by thebargie
cos i like the way the gixxer looks

seeing as i can only restrict something to 33 bhp anyway, engine size doesnt matter, i just want something that looks good

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:38 pm
by DukanMortis
My thought would be that it would only cost you a little less as the bike will still look like a full power 600 to anyone wanting to steal it.

I think the only way to find out would be to ring some insurance companies and get quotes over the phone.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:35 am
by Koss
Now, i don't know how insurance companies work in tiered license areas... but this is what I thought about when i read your question...

Would a 1000 cc super sport motorcycle cost the same to repair or write off in the event of an accident if it was restricted/unrestricted?

Edit: Ah you were asking about a 600cc not a 1000cc, so just replace it with the right size in the sentence

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:12 am
by Nibblet99
I would have to question how well a machine designed for 100+bhp will run with a 33.3 bhp restricter kit.

May be worth trying to find out if anyone else has first and if they get any problems. I'm not saying it won't run fine, just best to double check

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:34 am
by Fast Eddy B
Nibblet99 wrote:I would have to question how well a machine designed for 100+bhp will run with a 33.3 bhp restricter kit.

May be worth trying to find out if anyone else has first and if they get any problems. I'm not saying it won't run fine, just best to double check
+1

Don't know specifically about a gixxer 600, but because the bike is limited to 33.3 bhp AND the power is found high in the rev range, you lose so much tourque that the bike can be made almost unrideable. This is more true of high capacity inline 4 bikes like Hayabusa's and Blackbirds. Just because it can fit a restrictor kit, does not mean you should. Be careful, especially if it's one of your first rides. You might not know that it's NOT supposed to ride that way.

If you're limited to 33.3 bhp, might be best to find a ride that is meant to be that way. Only my 2 cents...

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:04 am
by Sev
Fast Eddy B wrote:
Nibblet99 wrote:I would have to question how well a machine designed for 100+bhp will run with a 33.3 bhp restricter kit.

May be worth trying to find out if anyone else has first and if they get any problems. I'm not saying it won't run fine, just best to double check
+1

Don't know specifically about a gixxer 600, but because the bike is limited to 33.3 bhp AND the power is found high in the rev range, you lose so much tourque that the bike can be made almost unrideable. This is more true of high capacity inline 4 bikes like Hayabusa's and Blackbirds. Just because it can fit a restrictor kit, does not mean you should. Be careful, especially if it's one of your first rides. You might not know that it's NOT supposed to ride that way.

If you're limited to 33.3 bhp, might be best to find a ride that is meant to be that way. Only my 2 cents...
It's still ridable, it can be easily ridden. It's just that so many people in North America are stuck on the bigger is better is better is better attitude that they don't seem to realise there are alternatives. Is it a good idea, "honestly I don't think so, there are better and cheaper ways to start".

That being said, if you buy the bike new the limiter will basically cause you to incorrectly break in the engine due to the fact you cannot explore the full rev range, it'll be constant low speed and you'll glaze the engine meaning parts won't fit together well and it'll burn oil.

But once again it can be done, and the bike WILL be rideable.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:36 am
by Nibblet99
out of interest sev, any idea how they do it? is it a simple remapping of the fuel injectors, or something else they use on injecteds?