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Idle racing

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:09 am
by Tower18CHI
Hi guys,

Short time reader, first time poster. *rimshot*

Anyway, I am a new biker and I just recently got my 1980 Suzuki GS250. It runs nice and strong and mostly works just fine exceot when it gets hot, the idle races and runs about 3500-4000rpms. If I get a chance to cruise for awhile, it settles back down to 2000-2200 or so. I know that's high anyway, and I need to adjust it, but what is causing the racing? The bike is air-cooled, so is it overheating in traffic? Is my choke broken and always on? What's the deal?

Thanks!

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:26 pm
by Tower18CHI
Update: I played with the throttle stop screw tonight and I got the warm idle to around 1800, but there seemed to be absolutely no effect after that point.

But now, I took it for a ride around the block, and the throttle hangs, and eventually (probably 4-5 seconds after closing throttle) returns to idle.

WTF. I know I need my carbs cleaned...would gunk in the idle circuit be causing all these gremlins and should I just knock off the tinkering until I clean the carbs first?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:28 pm
by Sev
Sounds like there might be an air leak. Check around the boots for cracks etc.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:22 pm
by Damian
You may need to adjust the pilot screws on your carbs to allow a richer mixture at idle. But only mess with this if you can rule out an intake leak like Sev mentioned.

idle racing

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:08 am
by Gnarlyroad
Probably not a bad idea to lube your throttle and choke cables as well.

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:37 am
by Sev
Don't turn the pilot out more then 5 full turns. At that point it's possible that the screw will vibrate loose in normal running conditions.

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:56 am
by Tower18CHI
Bump this back to the top.

Things I can rule out:
Carbs
Air leak at intake manifold/carb boots

What else could be doing this? Any other locations for air leaks? I read somewhere that the springs on the timing advance might be worn out, and sagging when hot, and thus advancing the timing at idle. Is this possible? If so, I could theoretically cover up or at least lessen the problem by using a higher octane gas, right?

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:08 pm
by tim conroy
Air leaks arent alway's easy to find.I would spray water mist around the boots where they connect to the cylinder.Go to your local dealer and order the intake boot 0-rings.They get hard and brittle and will not start sucking air till it gets warmed up.Spraying around the boots will not detect this,believe me.I know! They are cheap, abot 2 bucks a peice and a good place to start.Start simple and go from there.You will spend a lot less money that way.Also go to www.thegsresources.com for all the info you will ever need on your bike.