In Need of Some Guidance

Message

Phoenyx · #1 Unread post by **Phoenyx** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:07 am

Well, first I would like to thank you for reading my thread.

I am a 18 year old male looking for a 'speed' motorcycle. A nice one. I have been looking around on the net, trying to find the best, and the fastest motorcycles. Price isn't really an issue (My max is USD $50,000).

I was just wondering, what are the best motorcycles? Are Ducatis really the "ferraris of motorcycles?" Are they any good? I've been looking at the new 1098s and I almost bought one, but I'm still wondering, what is the best performance motorcycle? Most powerful? The MV Agusta F4 1000? I'm looking the "BEST" motorcycle there, and fast. Also, what is the best company for, like, motorcycles? Honda, Ducati, Yamaha, Suzuki, or what?

What is your opinion on Ducatis? What's your dream motorcycle?

Anyway, thanks for your help and your time!

J.

Lion_Lady · #2 Unread post by **Lion_Lady** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:32 am

What is the extent of your riding experience?

My guess is that since you're asking an unknown group of strangers what bike to get, you don't already ride. Because you could ask your riding buddies - or you would have gotten an idea of what's what from riding and hanging out with folks who ride.

Buying ANY "speed bike" with no training or experience is about as smart an idea as trying to fly an F18 fighter jet with no training. You're just going to A: Look like a total dork as you try to 'figure out' how to control a tweaky speed motorcycle on the street, B: Mess up the machine and C: Mess yourself up, or get killed.

Read the sticky threads at the top of this section THEN come back. You might just pick a couple bikes, like the Duc 1099 and the SV1000 and see what it will cost to INSURE either of them for 6 months.

P

Phoenyx · #3 Unread post by **Phoenyx** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:47 am

Well, there's nothing wrong with having the best. I never said I was just going to get on it and see how fast I can go. I already bought a smaller, cheaper bike to mess with and every year for the past 6 years I have been on dirt bikes racing in the mountains and so on with friends and family - sorry if you feel offended.

I'm just someone who wants to know what the best is, and strive for it. A car just doesn't give me that rush anymore (BMW M3) and I love speed. Ever since I can remember, I've only crashed a few times on a bike and it was usually simple mistakes or missing "my mark" as they say, hehe.

Anyway, thanks for your time.

J.

Kal · #4 Unread post by **Kal** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:33 am

Best is dependant on application.

There are times that my 24 year old 250 beats any sportsbike you care to name. It all depends on the context of best.

I am going to say this once.

This is to be your first Bike not your last.

Choose a bike that you are likely to ground in good basic skills before you buy into the supersports thing.

<edit>

I've just read your second post. Buy a track bike and thrash it on the club racing circuit. That why you can have all the speed you want without puting yourself or more importantly anyone else at risk.

Phoenyx · #5 Unread post by **Phoenyx** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:46 am

Kal - Thanks for your reply

Well, what bike do you suggest? What bike do you think is the best, but should be getting after I learn the tricks and trades of a motorcycle?

J.

Kal · #6 Unread post by **Kal** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:25 am

If you watch the racing you'll see two different riders getting completely different rides out of indentical bikes.

The only way to know if a Bike is best for you and the type of riding that you are going to do then you have to ride it, make sure that you fit it and that it is best for your riding style.

Thats the whole reason I dialled back to a 250cc bike - I was going to have my licence taken away on the 500 I was riding.
Best for me was a smaller, slightly slower bike.

For me there is no reason anyone needs a 100+bhp bike for road use. However thre are a number of sportsbikes that are rollig works of art.

Included are things like the R1 50th Anniversary Edition or the Yoshimura R1, Honda RC30 or RC45, Ducati 996 or 741, Honda CBX1000 or Kawaski Z1000

tortus · #7 Unread post by **tortus** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:07 am

The thing is, the only way you will know what kind of bike you like is to get out and ride bikes. I used to be all about super sports. I used to think I couldn't wait to get my kick arse liter sport bike.

But now that I'm riding my "little" SV, I'm thinking I may just never get a big sport bike. I now know so much more about what it takes/means to ride a bike, and realize I will probably never have any real need and even desire for a big sport bike. Or at least, that's how I feel now.

I now know first hand the discomfort of clip on handlebars. Now when I see a CBR or a Ninja ZXR or something parked, I look at the riding stance and think "man, no thanks!"

My next bike will probably be a naked/standard, like the KTM Super Duke (yum!) And hey, if you really want "the best", Motorcyclist magazine declared the Super Duke is the best street bike available

Shorts · #8 Unread post by **Shorts** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:09 pm

Phoenyx wrote:Well, there's nothing wrong with having the best. I never said I was just going to get on it and see how fast I can go. I already bought a smaller, cheaper bike to mess with and every year for the past 6 years I have been on dirt bikes racing in the mountains and so on with friends and family - sorry if you feel offended.

I'm just someone who wants to know what the best is, and strive for it. A car just doesn't give me that rush anymore (BMW M3) and I love speed. Ever since I can remember, I've only crashed a few times on a bike and it was usually simple mistakes or missing "my mark" as they say, hehe.

Anyway, thanks for your time.

J.

Hey man, don't think your comments got under her skin, she handles things very well. Sounds like you're new here, so don't write off ANYBODY'S suggestions and input at this time until you know who you are talking to.

"The best" bike for you is what will allow you to ride well and learn how to handle it. If you're in it for the bling and popularity factor, you're misguided. Sure, its ok to have a nice bike to be proud of. But you don't want to be the weak link in what the bike can do.

Street and dirt are a bit different. Sure, some skills apply. Some don't. Don't forget the traffic and other factors.

Take a look at the Ninja 650, SV650, GS500F.

If all you're looking for is a good rush, by all means, buy a supersport, twist the throttle and smear yourself on the highway. Everyone will be watching.

xb12rMatt · #9 Unread post by **xb12rMatt** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:42 pm

If you are going to be in the cities, avoid the R1 or any similar ones (GSXR1000 CBR 1000 ZX10R). In the cities, you're bike will look like a hydraulics contest on a car... (you can quote me on that) I bought the R1 as a first bike but it didn't go to well because I had to commute. I loved the R1 on the highways and back roads because of its power to handle situations well. Oh don't worry I never went above 90 MPH, just the power to move around was amazing.

If you are going to be in the cities often, the XB12R or XB9R would be a great choice along with the bikes already listed here. The XB12R's throttle has no resemblance at all with the throttle of a super sport such as a R1 and is quite calm to be in the cities. Most of my riding is in the cities and the XB12R can be great. Sometimes you have to use short bursts of power in tight conditions but it is still a great bike.

s0crates82 · Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:43 pm

one of the fastest stock street bikes in the world is the Suzuki Hayabusa.

http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/Pr ... n=OVERVIEW

It'll only set you back less than $12kUS.

That said, before purchasing it I recommend that you get all of your financial affairs in order, meet with a lawyer to draw up your last Will and Testament, and make love to your sweetheart one last time.