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The MSF is the Motorcycle Safety Foundation. http://www.msf-usa.org/ NOT a class for riding motorcycles.

The MSF provides several different course programs (but they do not TEACH the classes directly):

> The Basic Rider Course (BRC)
> The Experienced Rider Course (ERC)
> MSF DirtBike School

Some states offer a condensed version of the BRC, called the BRC II.

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I think people just refer to the MSF classes as the MSF so people know what company/cirriculum. I've seen a few private companies teach a non MSF basic rider course. Anyway people will always shorten things. Instead of saying the Motorcycle Safety Foundation's Basic Rider Course, you probably say the MSF BRC or the BRC as an instructor. However most people only say the beginning. It's why people call me Steve or sometimes Ste. Is it 100% accurate? No, but as long as you get the meaning it should be ok.

We don't have a BRCII. We do have the intermediate rider course which takes part from the ERC it's fun and it involves a one handed weave. The signal that ridercoaches use is fairly hilarious.

In Virginia alot of ranges are also offering a jumpstart course which is the first few exercises of the BRC. It's for people who are slow with basic concepts or lack confidence. It's mainly a primer. It's offered the day before the BRC to help them make it easier.

Also- at the end of this summer they should be introducing a brand new course which is a step between the ERC and a track day. I'm told it's similar to Lee Parks total control class but better... or so says the word on the wire.

Lion_Lady wrote: The MSF provides several different course programs (but they do not TEACH the classes directly):

this is actually not true where I live.

here in PA, "Rider Couches" work directly for the MSF. So MSF courses are administered directly by the MSF. As an instructor I would be paid by the MSF, and all materials are supplied by the MSF. Perhaps your state is different but as a blanket statement that is not correct.

-Holiday wrote:

Lion_Lady wrote: The MSF provides several different course programs (but they do not TEACH the classes directly):

this is actually not true where I live.

here in PA, "Rider Couches" work directly for the MSF. So MSF courses are administered directly by the MSF. As an instructor I would be paid by the MSF, and all materials are supplied by the MSF. Perhaps your state is different but as a blanket statement that is not correct.

+1 in florida

Here in Colorado there at least 4 private schools. Two for sure teach the MSF course, as well as Ft.Carson. I don't know about the other two. But all of these are in the major metro areas (like Denver and Colo Spgs)There is also the Harley class. Abate, who's instructors are unpaid volunteers, offers Msf course in some other areas, but are only a few times a year. The MSF Dirt Bike School is only avail. in the Denver metro area, at least when I took it in 2002.
Many of these are partially funded by a $1 surcharge on every MC tag sold.

Lion_Lady wrote:The MSF is the Motorcycle Safety Foundation. http://www.msf-usa.org/ NOT a class for riding motorcycles.

Aww, I wouldn't be that hard on the program.

I always thought taking MSF sponsored courses were a shortcut to getting an M license. I say this because I took the riding course at my local driving school and it was a couple of months of work. From working the clutch on a quirky off-roader to highway riding in the wet weather on a Rebel then Virago (just for one lesson, I had complained that the handle bars on the Rebel kept hitting my knee).

DivideOverflow wrote:

-Holiday wrote:

Lion_Lady wrote: The MSF provides several different course programs (but they do not TEACH the classes directly):

this is actually not true where I live.

here in PA, "Rider Couches" work directly for the MSF. So MSF courses are administered directly by the MSF. As an instructor I would be paid by the MSF, and all materials are supplied by the MSF. Perhaps your state is different but as a blanket statement that is not correct.

+1 in florida

+1 in Ohio