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06 Ninja Water in gas tank
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:47 am
by rkm625
long story short my tank leaks. Bike was out when it monsoooned.
I went to go ride the next day and it started up fine until the water/gas got to the motor. I didnt realize it at the time so I kept trying to start it for a while.
siphoned the gas/water out put more gas in and siphoned that out and again.
tried to start it again. It fired randomly a few times but never stayed running unless i was pushing the starter. Took the spark plugs out last night and put new ones in today.
new plugs in and try it again and it doesnt do anything...
took the tank back off took the fuel pump off and completely drained the tank and ran the fuel pump to get what was in there out
Still wont start!
took the plugs back out and im letting it sit over night.
WHATS WRONG WITH MY BIKE??
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:22 am
by thespirit
Assuming you got it all out of the lines, you could try putting some dry gas in the tank with fresh gas and fill it all the way up. It probably just has some left over in it. It might be one of those things where you will have to get the dry gas in it and through the system before it will start.
Check to make sure you have spark at the spark plugs, just in case... But I'm sure it's just still residual water.
P.S. I say dry gas because it's what my dad always called it. Fuel system cleaner will probably do the same thing. Just make sure the bottle says it will get water out.
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:50 pm
by Sev
Is the pump in the gas tank working right now? It's possible that you've still got some water in the pump and along the injection lines... I'd pour a small SMALL amount of gas into the cylinders through the spark plug holes. Then try to start it. It'll run for a little bit, and possibly flush out any water.
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:07 pm
by rkm625
yeah i ran the pump to get what was in it out and now im gonna try spraying carb/choke cleaner in it and then blowing it out with compressed air and also drain the fuel rail and clean out the injectors......
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:09 pm
by thespirit
Good idea.
If you are going to try to start it and it doesn't seem to want to start again, try spraying some starting fluid in through the intake... I don't think I would pour gas into my cylinder, even a small amount... But that's just me.
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:13 pm
by Sev
thespirit wrote:Good idea.
If you are going to try to start it and it doesn't seem to want to start again, try spraying some starting fluid in through the intake... I don't think I would pour gas into my cylinder, even a small amount... But that's just me.
Happens at shops all the time. Especially with two strokes, you pour a little premix into the cylinder and try to start it. If it starts you know you've got fuel delivery issues.
Or if the petcock is vacuum operated and it doesn't have a prime option you just dump a little gas in there and fire it up.
What makes spraying starter fluid (a chemical compound with different burning qualities then gasoline) any better or any safer?
FIXED!!!
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:35 am
by rkm625
it sat for 2 days with the spark plugs out, charged the batt, and held the throttle open and it slowly came back to life
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:48 am
by thespirit
Sev wrote:Happens at shops all the time. Especially with two strokes, you pour a little premix into the cylinder and try to start it. If it starts you know you've got fuel delivery issues.
Or if the petcock is vacuum operated and it doesn't have a prime option you just dump a little gas in there and fire it up.
What makes spraying starter fluid (a chemical compound with different burning qualities then gasoline) any better or any safer?
I wouldn't take it to a shop that does that. Easiest way to flood it out. If the engine is worn, that gas can easily drip down into the oil. Bad.
Starting fluid is designed for just that, starting an engine. You don't dump it into the engine, you squirt a small amount into the intake and try to start it immediately.
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:37 am
by Sev
thespirit wrote:Sev wrote:Happens at shops all the time. Especially with two strokes, you pour a little premix into the cylinder and try to start it. If it starts you know you've got fuel delivery issues.
Or if the petcock is vacuum operated and it doesn't have a prime option you just dump a little gas in there and fire it up.
What makes spraying starter fluid (a chemical compound with different burning qualities then gasoline) any better or any safer?
I wouldn't take it to a shop that does that. Easiest way to flood it out. If the engine is worn, that gas can easily drip down into the oil. Bad.
Starting fluid is designed for just that, starting an engine. You don't dump it into the engine, you squirt a small amount into the intake and try to start it immediately.
Then you're going to be doing a lot of work on your own bike from now on

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:48 am
by thespirit
Sev wrote:Then you're going to be doing a lot of work on your own bike from now on

That's just it, though. I don't take my bikes to anyone. I do everything myself. It's a learning process, but one that's way worth it. If I break down on a highway somewhere, I can at least diagnose it, if not fix it right there on the spot.