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I can't do that anymore

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:49 am
by 1600 star
Democrat or Republican I can't stand to listen to there nonsense anymore!I have been following some from the Libertarian party here in Wy. and it just makes sense to me. I will vote Libertarian this fall.

Re: I can't do that anymore

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:11 pm
by jonnythan
1600 star wrote:Democrat or Republican I can't stand to listen to there nonsense anymore!I have been following some from the Libertarian party here in Wy. and it just makes sense to me. I will vote Libertarian this fall.
Have you checked out Ron Paul?

He's essentially a Libertarian running under the Republican ticket. The Libertarian party is courting him to run as a Libertarian if (when) he doesn't get the Republican nomination.

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:05 pm
by dean owens
i'm falling more and more into the libertarian camp. i'm a conservative and really like things that republicans are supposed to stand for. but they are a big government party right now. we need something that will put our government on a diet.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:37 am
by NorthernPete
here you goes...if your disenfranchised, pick a third party..heres the directory...there are alot!!!

http://www.politics1.com/parties.htm

my personal favorite... the Pansexual Peace Party

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:34 pm
by Meanie
Why does anyone have to be party specific? Why can't people just choose the best candidate they think can do the job without affiliating them to a party? That's one of the main problems in this country with politicians. Too many are committed to one party or the other and it's mostly Dems or Reps and for the past few decades, both have proven to be crap in one form or another.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:10 pm
by Patrick
Meanie wrote:Why does anyone have to be party specific? Why can't people just choose the best candidate they think can do the job without affiliating them to a party? That's one of the main problems in this country with politicians. Too many are committed to one party or the other and it's mostly Dems or Reps and for the past few decades, both have proven to be "crumb" in one form or another.
Not only what you say but many have crossed lines themselves based on which party they think they have a better chance in. Also the extremes in most cases have been eliminated.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:37 am
by Meanie
Patrick wrote:
Not only what you say but many have crossed lines themselves based on which party they think they have a better chance in. Also the extremes in most cases have been eliminated.
Very good point. I have a friend in politics and has become the mayor of the city we grew up in. He switched parties because he had a better chance. I'm thinking, then what the heck are parties for? What's more surprising are those die hard rep or dem voters who most likely don't realize the switching going on, or maybe they do but don't get the connection. It's all political bullpoop.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:20 am
by dean owens
Meanie wrote:Why does anyone have to be party specific? Why can't people just choose the best candidate they think can do the job without affiliating them to a party? That's one of the main problems in this country with politicians. Too many are committed to one party or the other and it's mostly Dems or Reps and for the past few decades, both have proven to be "crumb" in one form or another.
i get what you're saying, but generally a party has some core values. hence someone setting themselves up with a particular party. it's not always the case. and each party evolves. that's why new parts raise up and old ones die. currently, neither party is what they started off as. i don't think i go with a party but there is one that i tend to go to more often than not. although, if the two front runners of the two major parties become the options for president - i will be voting libertarian for the first time ever in a presidential election.

Re: I can't do that anymore

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:40 pm
by ceemes
jonnythan wrote:
1600 star wrote:Democrat or Republican I can't stand to listen to there nonsense anymore!I have been following some from the Libertarian party here in Wy. and it just makes sense to me. I will vote Libertarian this fall.
Have you checked out Ron Paul?

He's essentially a Libertarian running under the Republican ticket. The Libertarian party is courting him to run as a Libertarian if (when) he doesn't get the Republican nomination.
Not so, not all Libertarians. The Libertarian CATO institute has basically poo-poo'ed all over him in regards to the racist articles carried in his various newsletters over the years. Paul has about as much chance of winning the GOP nomination or becoming the next POTUS as I do of becoming the next Pope.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:45 pm
by ceemes
Meanie wrote:
Patrick wrote:
Not only what you say but many have crossed lines themselves based on which party they think they have a better chance in. Also the extremes in most cases have been eliminated.
Very good point. I have a friend in politics and has become the mayor of the city we grew up in. He switched parties because he had a better chance. I'm thinking, then what the heck are parties for? What's more surprising are those die hard rep or dem voters who most likely don't realize the switching going on, or maybe they do but don't get the connection. It's all political bullpoop.
Its no different up here in the Great White North. During our last General Federal Election, a Vancouver MP was elected to Parliament as a Liberal MP, almost the next day, he crossed the floor, joining the Minority Conservative Party and was rewarded with a Ministerial position. The people in his riding were outraged, and wanted him to step down and face a bi-election. Basically they said, they elected the Liberal candidate, not the Conservative and him crossing the floor was a slap in the face to the ridings voters.