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Don't buy HD-DVD It's a Dead Format

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:35 am
by Brackstone
You can read the discussion below if you want for but it's a mute point HD-DVD is officially a dead format

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/02/16/toshi ... -ray-wins/



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I don't know how many people are monitoring this or care, but I'm sure enough people probably remember the VHS/Beta max war and are probably making pretty informed decisions. However I don't want to see anyone get ripped off.

Nevertheless I constantly hear people getting misinformation when I am at my local electronics stores about how HD-DVD is the way to go. Heck most people just think HDTV well HD-DVD is the other format and what's this blu-ray thing?

But I wanted to WARN everyone that HD-DVD is currently losing the format war! If you are on the fence and being tempted by the falling prices you should continue to stick it out as I believe these price drops are really a fire sale!

So far almost all of the major studios are exclusive to Blu-Ray and now Netflix has dropped support for HD-DVD and it will phase it out by the end of the year. Blockbuster I believe only rents HD-DVD movies online and at around 20% of it's retail.

I was skeptical for a while because I know people are saying more players is where the market is and movie studios will go that way but it just doesn't appear to be happening. With Netflix now backing Blu-Ray exclusively I think that not only is it pivotal for this one company but it is a good sign for how the war is going in general.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:48 am
by JC Viper
That's funny because me and Ofblong started getting into this topic back on another thread when I noticed his sig being an HD DVD fanboi :laughing: .

Anyhow it looks like places like Anandtech, Ars, Extremetech, Tomshardware etc. are bringing news on how Blu-Ray is edging HD DVD in adoption probably in part due to the price drop on PS3. The thing is that HD DVD players are cheaper and Toshiba is including them in $800 laptops. Plus HD DVD isn't as bad with DRM as Blu-Ray or so the argument goes.

It'll probably be sometime before a winner is chosen. If anything there might be more players that integrate both formats which makes the whole thing seem moot.

As for me I just jumped on the DL DVD-+R/RW thing for my PC which means I won't be interested in this stuff until there is one dominant format with finalized specs.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:52 am
by JC Viper
Here we go, another update while I was doing my usual browsing on Anandtech.com http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=10637

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:08 am
by Brackstone
Hi Viper,

Yes only time will tell what will happen. My concern is that people always get pushed into things when they walk into a store and I'd hate to see someone spend $200 + Movies + (decent) HDMI cables.

With the price drops in HD-DVD coming out full speed I'm afraid people may jump on board and I just don't see that much support from the studios and other associated companies.

Do I own a Blu-Ray? Yeah I own a PS3, but I was gonna buy it one way or another. But I'm not a movie watcher, I have maybe 5 DVDs I bought on my own and then I have my Invader Zim and ATHF collection and that's about it.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:15 am
by Brackstone
Well I have to take back what I said about Best Buy pushing HD-DVD

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site ... 8&vnsId=33

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:44 am
by storysunfolding
I don't see how there can be a difference between cheap and expensive HDMI cables. Digital signals are an all or nothing event. You either get it or you don't. It doesn't succomb to the same problems as analog.

Most articles I've seen have said the same thing too... am I way off here?

Oh- and popcorn is apparently switching over to blueray as blue ray sales have been much higher than HD-DVD- thanks fark.com!

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:39 am
by Brackstone
storysunfolding wrote:I don't see how there can be a difference between cheap and expensive HDMI cables. Digital signals are an all or nothing event. You either get it or you don't. It doesn't succomb to the same problems as analog.

Most articles I've seen have said the same thing too... am I way off here?

Oh- and popcorn is apparently switching over to blueray as blue ray sales have been much higher than HD-DVD- thanks fark.com!
I can't testify to the difference or not, I just know the various high tech places I worked at never seemed to skimp on the cost of cable when it came to video signals.

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:53 am
by JC Viper
Brackstone wrote:
storysunfolding wrote:I don't see how there can be a difference between cheap and expensive HDMI cables. Digital signals are an all or nothing event. You either get it or you don't. It doesn't succomb to the same problems as analog.

Most articles I've seen have said the same thing too... am I way off here?

Oh- and popcorn is apparently switching over to blueray as blue ray sales have been much higher than HD-DVD- thanks fark.com!
I can't testify to the difference or not, I just know the various high tech places I worked at never seemed to skimp on the cost of cable when it came to video signals.
Everyone knows that Monster cables are all or nothing with their solid gold connections and all. :P

Only the Joe Averages will fall for the Monster hype given to them by the Best Buy associate.

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:29 am
by koji52
Monster cables are only worth the money if they're 1/4" guitar cables. Other than that, I've never seen a difference between your regular brand HD cables and Monster Cables.

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:12 am
by Brackstone
Rumor on the rise Toshiba to switch to Blu-Ray. Toshiba is pretty much the sole manufacturer of the HD-DVD drivers and owner of the format. If they switch it's over.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/tosh ... op-hd-dvd/

I don't expect you'll see a very formal announcement about this for a month or two as I believe they want to try to clear out whatever inventory is hanging around first. Hate to say that but they'd rather try to recoup any of their loss even at the expense of consumers :\

UPDATE: Walmart pulling HD-DVD off the shelves
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/15/wal- ... s-by-june/