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djbrown01 · #1 Unread post by **djbrown01** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:48 pm

I am getting ready to become a brand new rider and starting all of the basic steps you need to take. The MSF course riding around in parking lots and on my neighborhood streets to get comfortable before tackling the big bad roads with traffic. I have read alot of the posts about getting a starter bike and have swallowed my pride and figured why not start on a 250 ninja for around 1500 or less on ebay and after i get comfortable get whatever I want. After considering they let me fly 750 HP turbine engine chemical death machines 6 feet off the ground I figure I had to start in the little planes there for a reason and I am bringing my reasoning into this world as well. Still dont know which is more dangerous yet but possibly I will get a lot of replies to my first thread and see what you all think. BTW I am not getting a Hayabusa for my first bike as much as I want to.

#2 Unread post by **Wrider** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:58 pm

Well

to the forums! And second does that mean you're a cropduster? Also, thanks for not actually getting the Busa as a first bike... lol You have no idea how many squids come in here and ask us how to use the clutch correctly on their brand new supersport and nonsense like that.

As for a Ninja 250, good choice! Great starter bike if you fit (I personally would kill the poor thing's suspension at almost 300 lbs.)

Also, like most of us did, take the MSF course and learn to ride from experienced instructors!
Wrider

Grey Thumper · Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:07 pm

Pretty sneaky thread title there.

djbrown01 · #4 Unread post by **djbrown01** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:19 pm

Thats right I am a cropduster or the new term they are using Aerial Applicator.. Keeping the countries produce safe. I am nowhere near 300 pounds maybe more like 175 or so and about 5 9 tall. I may be on here asknig silly questions like that how to do this or that but I think I will get a good deal of experience riding around on runways and things of that nature just to get a feel. I have been on bikes a few times the last being a 92 CBR 600 my friend gave to me and I didnt feel all that comfortable on it. Felt really heavy and I didnt know how well it was maintained so I didnt feel like going all nutty on it and something happening so I deep sixed that in favor of getting a fresh start on something with less power. Thanks for the welcome maybe one day I will get to the 1000 posts distinction??

Grey Thumper · Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:04 am

djbrown01 wrote:I think I will get a good deal of experience riding around on runways and things of that nature just to get a feel.

This is effin' brilliant, and I really envy the fact that you can do this.

jonnythan · #6 Unread post by **jonnythan** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:43 am

750 HP crop duster?! Wow.

Why do they have so much power?

Pittance · #7 Unread post by **Pittance** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:12 am

jonnythan wrote:750 HP crop duster?! Wow.

Why do they have so much power?

I would guess because crop dusting would require a small runway on a big farm, that it carries up to 4 thousand pounds of dust-stuff (or passengers) to drop and when it drops, it cant just shoot up uncontrolled from a sudden lose of weight. So the plane would need to be a little heavier than normal. Also it probably needs enough power because it flies at such low altitude. Its more dangerous being 6ft off the ground than it is being 600 since you can hit poles and buildings more easily. Kinda like being on the highway doing 90mph between too semi-trucks with drunk drivers. You might need to gun it in a hurry so you wouldn't want to be at the top of your RPMs. Also I know passenger jets need to get to 200-300mph before it gets liftoff. So Id guess 100-200 for a small airplane. The Bugatti Veyron has a 1000hp engine and it only gets 236-ish mph.

Or I could be completely wrong, but thats all just a guess.

flynrider · #8 Unread post by **flynrider** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:27 am

djbrown01 wrote:Thats right I am a cropduster or the new term they are using Aerial Applicator.. Keeping the countries produce safe. I am nowhere near 300 pounds maybe more like 175 or so and about 5 9 tall. I may be on here asknig silly questions like that how to do this or that but I think I will get a good deal of experience riding around on runways and things of that nature just to get a feel. I have been on bikes a few times the last being a 92 CBR 600 my friend gave to me and I didnt feel all that comfortable on it. Felt really heavy and I didnt know how well it was maintained so I didnt feel like going all nutty on it and something happening so I deep sixed that in favor of getting a fresh start on something with less power. Thanks for the welcome maybe one day I will get to the 1000 posts distinction??

Welcome to the group. Riding around at the airport is an excellent way to practice. The pavement quality is usually better (and less gravelly) than the average parking lot. I was practicing tight low speed 360s on the ramp last weekend (scrapin' the pegs at 5mph). The only problem I had was when I rode through a puddle of oil that had been left by a visiting B-17. Avoid round engined airplanes.

The MSF course is an excellent idea. I often use the flying analogy to friends that want to skip training and get a high powered bike. It's like hopping into a Lear 55 without any training and trying to figure it out as you go along. You might survive it, but why take the risk?

djbrown01 · #9 Unread post by **djbrown01** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:42 am

Pittance wrote:
jonnythan wrote:750 HP crop duster?! Wow.

Why do they have so much power?
I would guess because crop dusting would require a small runway on a big farm, that it carries up to 4 thousand pounds of dust-stuff (or passengers) to drop and when it drops, it cant just shoot up uncontrolled from a sudden lose of weight. So the plane would need to be a little heavier than normal. Also it probably needs enough power because it flies at such low altitude. Its more dangerous being 6ft off the ground than it is being 600 since you can hit poles and buildings more easily. Kinda like being on the highway doing 90mph between too semi-trucks with drunk drivers. You might need to gun it in a hurry so you wouldn't want to be at the top of your RPMs. Also I know passenger jets need to get to 200-300mph before it gets liftoff. So Id guess 100-200 for a small airplane. The Bugatti Veyron has a 1000hp engine and it only gets 236-ish mph.

Or I could be completely wrong, but thats all just a guess.

Well alot of what you said is semi correct. We could have as much as an extra 8 thousand pounds on the plane at a given time depending on what is being spread that day and then you have to take into account air density and things can get a little hectic when you only have a few hundred feet left to get off the ground and clear those lines just ahead of you. And a passenger jet takes off at around 100 to 170 depending on what kind it is. And with the turbine there is no gunning it for extra power just think of it as a giant turbo with a propellor on the front of it with all the lag. I didnt mean to start an entire topic about flying and things but I would like some more input on beginning riding, the pitfalls, the joys, doing your own maintenance and maybe someone can give me some information about roadracing and how they got started?

#10 Unread post by **Wrider** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:25 am

Well we've got roadracers here, we've got mechanics and do it yourselfers here (I'm a mechanic in training in Phoenix right now). So yeah, basically anything you want we've got.

Pitfalls, first off, think of every other driver as a homicidal maniac trying to get you. It makes it a lot easier to understand how other drivers react when they see (or don't as the case usually is) a motorcycle.

Joys, you've got your freedom, wind in your hair, the exhilaration of the corners, the amazing acceleration that unless you've got a fast car you've never felt on the road before.

Definitely take the MSF course, it'll really help you learn to ride.

Maintenance, we've got help forums, we've got experienced mechanics, we've got everything...

As for roadracing, couldn't tell ya...
Wrider