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Question...

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 2:33 pm
by TheReaper
For those that have read Proficient motorcycling. When you do your quick stop, where do you look?

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 2:36 pm
by mswarrior
:shock: Back to see if you A$$ is still there. :D

Ummm, I took my course back in 1987 and from what I remember they just wanted to see if we could stop lol.

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 3:13 pm
by Mag7C
If quick stop is the same as emergency stop, they want you to keep your head and eyes way out on the horizon. So basically just look ahead, not at the ground.

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 3:15 pm
by Gummiente
Mag7C wrote:If quick stop is the same as emergency stop, they want you to keep your head and eyes way out on the horizon. So basically just look ahead, not at the ground.
And don't forget the quick glance behind you after the bike has stopped - just in case that 5 ton bread truck that was following you wasn't paying attention.

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 3:59 pm
by Telesque
Gummiente wrote:
Mag7C wrote:If quick stop is the same as emergency stop, they want you to keep your head and eyes way out on the horizon. So basically just look ahead, not at the ground.
And don't forget the quick glance behind you after the bike has stopped - just in case that 5 ton bread truck that was following you wasn't paying attention.
Depending on how close he was following, I think I might just rather keep my eyes shut. :shock:

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 7:08 pm
by Sev
Gummiente wrote:
Mag7C wrote:If quick stop is the same as emergency stop, they want you to keep your head and eyes way out on the horizon. So basically just look ahead, not at the ground.
And don't forget the quick glance behind you after the bike has stopped - just in case that 5 ton bread truck that was following you wasn't paying attention.
One of my instructors raced for Kawasaki, and he said this literally saved his life. He had to emergency stop at a pedestrian crossing. So break, stomp on the shift lever as much as you can, foot down and look back.
The car right behind him stopped, the one behind it... didn't, he saw it was going to happen and gunned it (the people were clear). The car that was behind him, and had gotten hit, was pushed 15 feet. That would have been through or over him if he hadn't moved.

So eyes straight ahead until your foot goes down, then look back. Make sure you're in first LONG before you stop.

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 7:18 pm
by Telesque
Sevulturus wrote:Make sure you're in first LONG before you stop.
I'd like to stress this point. There's not a whole lot of use in looking back if you can't take off should you actually turn around to an emergency situation.

Downshifting probably isn't on too many (new) rider's minds in an quick-stop situation.

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 8:50 pm
by allawybiker
I am glad that in the MSF class they stressed the looking straight ahead and downshifting while performing the stop, and looking behind you as soon as the stop was completed. The idea is that you are ready to continue moving (run away) if you need to! I've actually practiced this procedure in a parking lot several times since...It's better to make it a habit as you won't have time to think when s#$% hits the fan...

Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 3:06 am
by kyle
Telesque wrote:There's not a whole lot of use in looking back if you can't take off should you actually turn around to an emergency situation.
I'd disagree here.. you could always dump the bike and run to the side. It'll suck to have your bike smeared, but at least you won't be on it.

Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 4:07 am
by TheReaper
See, in the MSF class we were taught, head and eyes up and scan for any other hazrds that may arise. That's cool, makes sense. However, for those that have read Proficient motorcycling, Hough states that since you usually go where your eyes go it would make sense to look at the spot you want to stop. Hence, eyes down at the front of the bike.

Never thought about the quick glance back though.

I was just curious what you guys were all told. Since I just got done with my BRC I'm in the habit of looking up.