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There's a new law in NYC that deals with bikes and loud pipes. The only problem is that the bike doesn't have to be on and the pigs don't have to prove that the bike exceeds the 80dB limit. If your bike is parked and there's no EPA sticker (saying they approve of the pipes) on it then you get a nice hefty fine of up to $1000 and they can take your bike away until you pay up. A second offense is $2500 and you lose your bike permanently. According to the scumbag council member this is a serious problem (I've encountered more cars with those loud fart cans in this town or loud pickups with rims). Apparently in the past there were many police chases against noisy bikes but I thought something like that would make the news if it was a regular occurrence.

Now we in NYC have to pick up an EPA tag (no idea of what it costs) or the next time we park our bikes we'll have a nice ticket (my pipes have the 80dB limit stamped on it but apparently a new tag is needed anyway). The EPA is also a useless agency...

You can thank the "Loud Pipes Save Lives" crowd for this one. Obviously, they were heard.

Like most other "loud pipe" ordinances this will probably fall if challenged.

But ... some one has to challenge it.

actually the EPA is a very good company for certain reasons.

Well they're not a company, but I see what you mean.
They are definitely good in a lot of instances. But at some times they overregulate everything to death. It's quite pathetic that you now need an EPA sticker to prove you've got a quiet bike. Besides, the cops in San Fran or LA or one of those California cities wouldn't ride their own Harleys with pipes under 80 dB...
Hope it falls.
Honestly I see the point of having a dB limit, but it's gotta be at least 100.
Wrider

Now you have to pay for more services? I don't like it one bit that the cops don't have to prove anything and write you up a nice ticket while parked.

Also in this city are loud cars and pickups that out number loud bikes. I think stupid people mistake those sounds to be only bikes and boombox cars are making a comeback.

The pipes on my bike are rated for 80dB for a certain distance and those new hybrid buses are much louder. In fact many new bikers are keeping their bikes either stock or have aftermarket pipes that aren't too loud or that they don't blip the throttle at night. I think the city would do much better about cracking down on bad drivers which is a more serious problem than what the douche of a council member says (these guys voted themselves a pay raise).

JC Viper wrote:There's a new law in NYC that deals with bikes and loud pipes. The only problem is that the bike doesn't have to be on and the pigs don't have to prove that the bike exceeds the 80dB limit. If your bike is parked and there's no EPA sticker (saying they approve of the pipes) on it then you get a nice hefty fine of up to $1000 and they can take your bike away until you pay up. A second offense is $2500 and you lose your bike permanently. According to the scumbag council member this is a serious problem (I've encountered more cars with those loud fart cans in this town or loud pickups with rims). Apparently in the past there were many police chases against noisy bikes but I thought something like that would make the news if it was a regular occurrence.

Now we in NYC have to pick up an EPA tag (no idea of what it costs) or the next time we park our bikes we'll have a nice ticket (my pipes have the 80dB limit stamped on it but apparently a new tag is needed anyway). The EPA is also a useless agency...

Great! Its about time. But I agree, other vehicles should also comply.

so what happens if I was to ride through there with my michigan plates? They would ticket me for not having an EPA sticker?

I hate loud pipes but this is the wrong way to go about it.
If I got a ticket there I'd hire a lawyer and rip that law a new a$$.

I would also try and make a copy of the required EPA tag. Problem solved. And Viper, let me know when you move back to the United States.

Gunslinger wrote:I hate loud pipes but this is the wrong way to go about it.
If I got a ticket there I'd hire a lawyer and rip that law a new a$$.

I would also try and make a copy of the required EPA tag. Problem solved. And Viper, let me know when you move back to the United States.

Huh? If it's about the NY being separated from the rest of the country attitude then yes I agree considering the current administration here.