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fuel injection?

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:39 pm
by monk_
When comparing the yamaha wr250x with the kawisaki klx250sf, how big of a deal is the fuel injection? Worth the extra money (I think $700)? And, are these good first bikes? Are they reliable (in comparison to, say, a ninja 250)? One other thing: how many miles should I expect to get out a bike? Thanks

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:49 pm
by Brackstone
Fuel injection is good because you don't have to choke your bike. Also I ran into a problem with my pilot jets getting clogged on my ninja 250 because of the ethanol in the fuel and fuel injection solves this.

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:07 pm
by Tennif Shoe
i love fi no worryes of stalling while idling

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:52 pm
by shane-o
blows my mind that they still make and sell bikes these days without EFI




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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:10 pm
by monk_
So I guess you're saying fi is worth the $700 difference. Thanks for the replies.

But, are they good first bikes? Are they reliable in comparison to a ninja 250? And how many miles should I expect to get out them? Thanks again

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:26 pm
by Tennif Shoe
monk_ wrote:So I guess you're saying fi is worth the $700 difference. Thanks for the replies.

But, are they good first bikes? Are they reliable in comparison to a ninja 250? And how many miles should I expect to get out them? Thanks again

lets put it this way if you wear out a 250 ninja you have done something very few on this board have seen

Re: fuel injection?

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:36 pm
by HYPERR
monk_ wrote:When comparing the yamaha wr250x with the kawisaki klx250sf, how big of a deal is the fuel injection? Worth the extra money (I think $700)? And, are these good first bikes? Are they reliable (in comparison to, say, a ninja 250)? One other thing: how many miles should I expect to get out a bike? Thanks
The major differences in the 2 bikes are the HP. The WR is about 28hp and the KLX is about 20. The Yamaha is a little taller too although that shouldn't be too much of a deal unless you're really short. The thing is, the WR is getting very close to the price of a Suzuki DRZ400SM.

Ironically the EFI on the WR is a little abrupt compared to the super smooth carb on the KLX.

What kind of riding are you looking to do?

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:42 pm
by HYPERR
Brackstone wrote:Fuel injection is good because you don't have to choke your bike. Also I ran into a problem with my pilot jets getting clogged on my ninja 250 because of the ethanol in the fuel and fuel injection solves this.
A finely tuned carb is better than an imperfect EFI. I changed the pilot, main, mixture screw, got an adjustable needle, & drilled out the slide on my KLX250 and the bike starts instantaneously hot or cold, needs no warmup whatsoever and runs perfectly. My other bikes are all EFI and Honda is the only one that is spot on. The Ducatis is abrupt and surges and the BMW surges also.

Re: fuel injection?

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:08 am
by monk_
HYPERR wrote:What kind of riding are you looking to do?
It's strange now that I think of it but I don't really know. Probably mostly around town, sub 50mph, but I would like to be able to go on the highway. All of my friends have cars and I just wanted something small, simple, fun, and cheap. So, that's how I came to those 2 bikes. Also, I can't stand the styling of the baby ninja.

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:17 am
by fireguzzi
I personally like the "analog" feel of a carb. Like Hyper said, EFI can be a little abrupt. Not all are though. Im just a mechanical kind of guy.