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Oil and filter. It's pretty simple on the F4i. All you need is the tools that come with the bike and a torque wrench for putting on the new filter.

Actually, you don't even really need a torque wrench, just get it as tight as possible by hand and it'll be fine.

Remember to rub a little oil onto the o-ring before you seal it off though.

Sevulturus wrote:Actually, you don't even really need a torque wrench, just get it as tight as possible by hand and it'll be fine.

Remember to rub a little oil onto the o-ring before you seal it off though.

i read everywhere thats a very bad idea? if you dont get it tight enough youll dump oil. if you over tighten by hand(some people are stonger than others) you screw everything up. not sure why theyd make it so sensitive like that i mean why not make it a very solid so you can crank it down and not worry so much. i say its a ploy to get you to pay for oil changes to keep service shops in business(so they can make money, and sell more bikes, conspiracy!).

my last oil change i paid for and cost me 65$ so im going to be doing my own from now on. looks to be the easiest job, the only thing to worry about is the drain plug being torqued right.

Yeah, the drain plug might have been a problem for me. My theory was just get it a little tight, pour a little oil in, and tighten it until it stops dripping. Wipe it totally dry and wait. If it drips then give it a 1/4 turn. Repeat until it stops dripping, then add another 1/4 turn.

As for the oil filter, mines yet to leak, and I've had no problems with oil... so far. It's still really clean (only 200 km on it) and my oil light has yet to turn on. Tapping on it lets me know there's a fair bit of liquid inside the filter.

The toughest part was getting the old filter off, but once I figured out that the whole thing was disposable I just crushed the end with a pair of plyers and twisted. Only the bottem 1/2 inch is threaded and nothing actually fits inside of my filter.

Well, I suppose I technically changed my own oil this time, didnt have the oil filter cover when I got the bike, and I drained a bit of what was left on my driveway as I pushed it from the truck to the shed, but I did put in my own filter and my own oil when I filled it back up the other week. I think Ill be doing alot of the maintainance on it myself when I get it rolling, just due to the age of the bike and everything. why pay shop labour for jobs that dont seem that hard. Im really liking my shop manual though.

Sevulturus wrote:Actually, you don't even really need a torque wrench, just get it as tight as possible by hand and it'll be fine.

Remember to rub a little oil onto the o-ring before you seal it off though.

I love it when you talk dirty to me.

bennettoid wrote:

Sevulturus wrote:Actually, you don't even really need a torque wrench, just get it as tight as possible by hand and it'll be fine.

Remember to rub a little oil onto the o-ring before you seal it off though.

I love it when you talk dirty to me.

lmao!!!!!!!!

i just go 1/4 turn past snug...i dont think ive broken anything yet...and i dont leak...well...my bike doesnt leak.

bennettoid wrote:

Sevulturus wrote:Actually, you don't even really need a torque wrench, just get it as tight as possible by hand and it'll be fine.

Remember to rub a little oil onto the o-ring before you seal it off though.

I love it when you talk dirty to me.

Did you remember to lube the shaft and grease the ball bearings?