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noobie wrote: Anyway, full-face is warmer and no rain, wind or bugs :)
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Helmet, what helmet, I don't need no stinking helmet. With my hard head it would only be window dressing anyways. I do wear one always, now that I have a DOT approved Novelty helmet that matches my bike. BWWWAAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA

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Kingshead wrote:I do wear one always, now that I have a DOT approved Novelty helmet that matches my bike. BWWWAAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA
OMG Martin... being a teacher you should really know a novelty helmet isn't DOT approved! I think you have been taken there by the sales guy. :laughing: But it does look nice and matches your bike really well.
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noobie wrote:I went from dirt bikes to street bikes - I've never worn anything short of a full-face...
Anyway, full-face is warmer and no rain, wind or bugs :)

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I agree with you there. In the rain or wind, a full face is great. For bugs as well, IF you keep the visor mostly closed, I've had a few run-ins with the odd bee in the cheek or head coming in the front of the helmet and exiting the bottom, luckily I've never been stung while riding.

I've rode in the USA (Montana) where you don't need a helmet to ride and at the hotel I was going to go out to the store and didn't have my gear but my bike keys and was in the parking lot... 20 min walk or 2 min bike ride.... well, I walked. Maybe it's the training but I just didn't feel right riding with no helmet on .... although if I'm moving my bike around the garage/alley etc I won't wear one of course.

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The pictured goggles are authentic 1920 era fighter pilots.

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Learned something today. As long as I wear glasses open face will not cut it at freeway speeds :D. I can see why aviators are so common, these glasses hardly cover my eyes and the wind in the eyes was unbearable!
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Johnj wrote:ANSI Z87.1 FTW
The problem with my glasses is not their safety rating, granted that would be a problem if I actually rode shield up much (mostly just around the neighborhood). It is that I have some of these here current style glasses that despite being bifocals are barely bigger than my eyes lol. Provides hardly any wind protection! If my prescription does not change, this year I will be getting contacts again, maybe. bifocal contacts suck, and if I am doing a lot of reading due to job or something, anything but bifocals suck :roll:.
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The modern riding glasses are better than the aviation ones. Give those a look to
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storysunfolding wrote:The modern riding glasses are better than the aviation ones. Give those a look to
and you can get them in a prescription lens!

I have some aviators... feels like i'm wearing nothing at all, they're horrible for the bike.
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Kingshead wrote:Helmet, what helmet, I don't need no stinking helmet. With my hard head it would only be window dressing anyways. I do wear one always, now that I have a DOT approved Novelty helmet that matches my bike. BWWWAAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA

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I will in several years. I don't see myself switching from sportbike anytime in the near future, and despite the fact that I sort of prefer the open face feel, vanity declares nothing but a fall face on a sportbike :D.

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Thanks, they're all nice, even "Splinterbutt". I've yet to see one I don't like. My car gets more attention though.
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i have read all of the post on the full face vs open face, i am a new rider so i dont have a my own words for what helmet is better. I can see for saftey that the full face helmet is a much better option, i of course observe other riders and see what they have or use, i have yet to find someone on a cruiser with a full face helmet in my area. slightly odd im sure-considering the saftey related. My question is clearly with a sportbike you would need a full face makes sence. Is it a crusier we are talking about with the full face? and if so do you ever change between the two? i live in a very open area, western New York, we have open lands for miles and miles not much traffic until we get to the larger cities. do you ever where the open face helmets for the view? Like i said i am new to riding and the forumn and im not saying anyone is wrong im just trying get a feel for everything.

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I'm seeing more and more cruiser riders in my area opting for full face helmets, particularly if they commute. A fellow rider coach who I figured would never give up his half shell, admitted he was a convert after winning a full face helmet at a bike night, and wearing it on the road.

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JM0111 wrote:i have read all of the post on the full face vs open face, i am a new rider so i dont have a my own words for what helmet is better. I can see for saftey that the full face helmet is a much better option, i of course observe other riders and see what they have or use, i have yet to find someone on a cruiser with a full face helmet in my area. slightly odd im sure-considering the saftey related. My question is clearly with a sportbike you would need a full face makes sence. Is it a crusier we are talking about with the full face? and if so do you ever change between the two? i live in a very open area, western New York, we have open lands for miles and miles not much traffic until we get to the larger cities. do you ever where the open face helmets for the view? Like i said i am new to riding and the forumn and im not saying anyone is wrong im just trying get a feel for everything.
So, JM - welcome to the site and to riding! I am a fairly new (3 years) rider - my first bike was a typical cruiser - suzuki volusia vl800 - looked like a fat boy.

I'm writing in the past tense because it was totaled in an accident which will be a year ago in a week or so. I'm a mid-age rider (40's) and am seriously safety conscious. I was in a low speed (under 15mpg) unavoidable traffic accident on my bike - and I was wearing kevlar lined jeans, boots with ankle protection, protective gloves, a perf leather jacket with armor, and a full-face arai helmet. I bought the arai, and was happy with my purchase, even though I often had the visor cracked open during rides in the warmer months.

I don't have the picture here, but I will tell you this. The full face helmet saved me from shattering my jaw, scraping serious amounts of skin from my face, and drinking out of a straw for months while healing. As it is, i had and have significant leg and ankle injuries - while all my gear did its job and protected me from everything else.

I see tons of ppl on all kinds of bikes, many with full, many with partial skull caps and everything in between. You asked for advice and here's mine: the helmet isn't for when you're riding, it's for when you're hitting the ground - no matter your best intentions and skills. I was considering a 3/4 around the time that i went down, but the dents and scratches on my arai are a reminder that i chose smartly and well.

Of course, you are free to do as you please - depending on applicable laws - but take a page from my experience book - as a new rider, the more protection, the fewer the distractions, the better.

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Well, the European COST study showed that about 35% percent of all crashes show major impact on the chin-bar area.

Of course, statistics can be misleading, but it makes sense anyway; if you hit something, it kinda makes sense that you'll fall forward, and roughly on the front side of your body (including your head).

And IMHO, it's more pleasant to ride with a full-face anyway; quieter, and less exposure to wind, sun, bugs, rain, little stones, etc.
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JM0111 wrote:i have read all of the post on the full face vs open face, i am a new rider so i dont have a my own words for what helmet is better. I can see for saftey that the full face helmet is a much better option, i of course observe other riders and see what they have or use, i have yet to find someone on a cruiser with a full face helmet in my area. slightly odd im sure-considering the saftey related. My question is clearly with a sportbike you would need a full face makes sence. Is it a crusier we are talking about with the full face? and if so do you ever change between the two? i live in a very open area, western New York, we have open lands for miles and miles not much traffic until we get to the larger cities. do you ever where the open face helmets for the view? Like i said i am new to riding and the forumn and im not saying anyone is wrong im just trying get a feel for everything.
So, JM - welcome to the site and to riding! I am a fairly new (3 years) rider - my first bike was a typical cruiser - suzuki volusia vl800 - looked like a fat boy.

I'm writing in the past tense because it was totaled in an accident which will be a year ago in a week or so. I'm a mid-age rider (40's) and am seriously safety conscious. I was in a low speed (under 15mpg) unavoidable traffic accident on my bike - and I was wearing kevlar lined jeans, boots with ankle protection, protective gloves, a perf leather jacket with armor, and a full-face arai helmet. I bought the arai, and was happy with my purchase, even though I often had the visor cracked open during rides in the warmer months.

I don't have the picture here, but I will tell you this. The full face helmet saved me from shattering my jaw, scraping serious amounts of skin from my face, and drinking out of a straw for months while healing. As it is, i had and have significant leg and ankle injuries - while all my gear did its job and protected me from everything else.

I see tons of ppl on all kinds of bikes, many with full, many with partial skull caps and everything in between. You asked for advice and here's mine: the helmet isn't for when you're riding, it's for when you're hitting the ground - no matter your best intentions and skills. I was considering a 3/4 around the time that i went down, but the dents and scratches on my arai are a reminder that i chose smartly and well.

Of course, you are free to do as you please - depending on applicable laws - but take a page from my experience book - as a new rider, the more protection, the fewer the distractions, the better.

Be smart, be Safe, and Attgatt - you never know. :wink:



Thank you very much for the reply, i must tell i was uncertain to many degrees on which would be best, i really like the look of a half helmet, but what i like and whats for the best are two diffrent things, i will be shopping this weekend at a local bike shop for a full helmet. I do appericaite your input and to many others as well, i know this will always be a ongoing debate. I love riding just as much as the next but i do have 2 kids to come home to everynight and they mean more to me than anything. I am thankfull you are getting better and have the intentions of getting back out there and ride... be safe and i will do everything in my power to make sure i am as well.

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JM0111 wrote:

Thank you very much for the reply, i must tell i was uncertain to many degrees on which would be best, i really like the look of a half helmet, but what i like and whats for the best are two diffrent things, i will be shopping this weekend at a local bike shop for a full helmet. I do appericaite your input and to many others as well, i know this will always be a ongoing debate. I love riding just as much as the next but i do have 2 kids to come home to everynight and they mean more to me than anything. I am thankfull you are getting better and have the intentions of getting back out there and ride... be safe and i will do everything in my power to make sure i am as well.
Good for you - just wanted to give you a cruiser rider's perspective and the benefit of my real-life experience. Lots of ppl on here say wisely when buying your first bike (and realizing you are a beginner and choosing the right bike for your experience) it's your first bike, not your last! it's also your first helmet, not your last :)

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#60 Unread post by Nalian »

I've always worn a full face helmet, and recently retired my first one due to age. I'm always amazed at the amount of dings and chips and giant bug death that have happened to that helmet in 5 short years. And most of that would have been crap that would have hit my face at 55+ mph...so I don't see the point of an open face helmet. I like my face and see no need to add more scars, which can happen on a bike even if you don't crash.

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