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The perfect bike is DIESEL??

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:52 am
by TechTMW
The bike is powered by a VW 1200cc 3 cylinder diesel car engine, turbo and intercooled.
74.5 kw @ 2500rpm. (100hp)
200+nm torque. (147+ lb-ft)
Compression ratio 16.0:1.
100km/hr in first gear.
Weight 205kgs. (551 lbs)
Fuel consumption 2.5litres per 100kms. (94mpg us)

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Unfortunately the only information I could find on this bike is in Dutch. :|
Sounds too good to be true. If they enter production, I'm sure america won't be seeing them :laughing:

Here's a link http://www.canyonchasers.net/blog/archi ... cycle.html

This link gives different specs than the ones I uncovered ... hmmm

Re: The perfect bike is DIESEL??

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:50 am
by Gummiente
TechBMW wrote:100km/hr in first gear.
I wonder how long it takes to get there, though...

Re: The perfect bike is DIESEL??

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:03 am
by Gadjet
TechBMW wrote:Weight 205kgs. (551 lbs)
typo. should be 451lbs

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:46 am
by Sobereality
i wonder if its bio deisel 8)

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:53 am
by MASHBY
Enfield came out with a Diesel bike about 10years ago.500cc and on a good day could top 60mph.And do 150mpg

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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:09 am
by Gummiente
MASHBY wrote:Enfield came out with a Diesel bike about 10years ago.500cc and on a good day could top 60mph.And do 150mpg
Back when I was posted in Germany around '84, I rode past a gas station one day and saw a Triumph Bonneville at the diesel pump. :shock: It did not have a parallel twin Triumph engine in it and by the time I was able to turn around and go back to the gas station for a closer look the bike was gone. I never saw it again and I've never heard of Triumph ever making a diesel bike, so to this day it remains a mystery to me.

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:20 am
by MASHBY
Well germany is very pro diesel.So probaly on home built.ON another diesel note Turbines run great with Diesel.
So this would be my prefered Diesel Bike
MTT Turbine SUPERBIKE.
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Engine:
Rolls Royce Allison

250 series gas turbine

Power
320 HP @52,000 rpm

(286 HP @ rear wheel)

Torque:
425 ft/lbs @ 2,000 rpm

Output RPM:
6,000 rpm

Compressor Speed:
54,000 rpm

Weight:
500 lbs

Frame:
aluminum alloy

Fairings:
carbon fiber

Rake:
27 degrees

Seat Height:
31.5 in

Wheel Base:
68 in

Wheels:
17" carbon fiber, Dymag

Tires - Front:
120 60ZR17, Pirelli

- Rear:
200 50ZR17, Pirelli

Brakes:
3x320 mm floating system- 4 piston

calipers, Brembo

Shocks:
mono-shock adjustable

oleopneumatic, Ohlins

Front Forks:
55 mm inverted

Fuel:
diesel, kerosene

Fuel Capacity:
8.5 gallons (34 liters)

Lubrication:
dry-sump/3.5 quarts turbine oil

Transmission:
2 speed automatic

Rear View:
rear mounted camera with LCD color

display plus side mirrors

Seat:
single or double

Colors:
infinite custom colors

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:41 am
by Aggroton
Sobereality wrote:i wonder if its bio deisel 8)
any stock diesel engine will run on bio diesel....


i before except after c.

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:57 am
by Nibblet99
Aggroton wrote:
Sobereality wrote:i wonder if its bio deisel 8)
any stock diesel engine will run on bio diesel....


i before except after c.
OR USED CHIP FRYING OIL

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:11 am
by tristan_s
i know that a diesel engine can be converted into a gas engine; i wonder if you could do it in reverse? (not that it would make much sense financially). If you could make a bike that could actually get up to speed reasonably quick and got 100+ mpg, you'd make a mint nowadays.

diesels have an advantage over gas engines when it comes to low end torque which is why they are popular in trucks and whatnot, plus it takes them very little effort to sustain speeds (again part of the reason they are used in semis; they can maintain a good cruising speed for a long time). the downside is that after that initial good torque, they tend to take ages to get up to normal speeds. that's why turbodiesels are so popular; the turbo is usually tuned to kick in in the mid RPM's to assist in getting the car up there.

the Germans have gotten pretty good at it; a 1.9l VW TDI Golf that I drove felt quicker off the line than a regular 2.0 gas version, and about the same in the mids (though the RPM's on a diesel are way lower anyway, part of the reason they also tend to last longer). The engine on that bike is probably out of a Lupo 1.2 TDI, since it's turboed and whatnot.

biodiesel can be burned in any diesel engine and really isn't such a bad idea. go over to the vwvortex forums and people will tell you it's the seed of evil, and that hybrids are a big joke. i think a hybrid diesel/electric engine with an electrically assisted intercooled sequential twin turbo would be sweet.... and still probably get 80+ mpg in a car.