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1911 Indian single build

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:30 am
by cobrafreak
Hi, this is my first post.
I wanted to own a turn of the century motorcycle but was shocked at the price of one, so I decided to make one myself fabricating everything I could and using off the shelf low cost bicycle components whenever possible. I also wanted to make it California emissions compliant and legal to register as a moped. The reason for the moped is the one time fee for the lifetime plate. $18.00 and never again. Very inexpensive moped insurance. A M2 license is required however. CA defines mopeds as being 50cc's or less, 2 hp or less, peddle assisted power, and not able to go over 30 mph. I liked how ancient motorcycles were simple and a lot like modern mopeds, so I combined them. The engine is a Grubee Skyhawk at 50cc, with 2hp, and the bike is geared for 30 mph. You ride around 10 mph and dump the clutch and the engine fires up, just like the original. The 1911 indian single was a 500cc engine and had 4 hp. Very inefficient design due to low technology. The power, top speed, and look is virtually the same. I took liberties such as adding a front brake, which the original did not have. The headlamp is a 100 year old carbide motorcycle headlamp that I purchased on Ebay. I converted it to LED. Everywhere I go this thing draws crowds. It is unbelievable. Everyone likes a old motorcycle, even one that emulates one. I took it to the local HD dealership and got a lot of praise from the bikers. That felt good. The reasoning is simple. If you had a 100 year old Indian you would not ride it. It would be in your garage or in a museum. Too expensive, too fragile. It's a shame. This is a bike you can ride every day and is simple, inexpensive, and easy to work on. I'm toying with the idea of selling these on the side if someone really wants one. Gets about 130 mpg. I also posted a video on youtube under "1911 Indian ride" , thanks.

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Re: 1911 Indian single build

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:12 am
by totalmotorcycle
:welcome2: to the community!

Gez, that is pretty amazing build! Very, very well done!

How long did it take you?

Mike

Re: 1911 Indian single build

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:45 am
by cobrafreak
About 200 hours. I probably could have done it faster but I'm really just a hobbyist. My career field has nothing to do with fabrication, welding, design, etc. It was just for fun. On the weekends downtown they have living history with people walking the streets with centuries old clothing and such and I thought it would be kind of neat to make this and dress the part with old motorcycle apparel from the board tracker days. Here is my Son posing with one of my outfits.

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Re: 1911 Indian single build

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:51 am
by ZRex
Welcome and Great job on the bike, I wish I had the ability to build something like that.

Re: 1911 Indian single build

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:26 am
by totalmotorcycle
Amazingly cool.

Re: 1911 Indian single build

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:33 am
by Wrider
That is pretty awesome man!

Re: 1911 Indian single build

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:58 am
by Kingshead
OK, so how much $$$$$ if I want one? That is one cool mutha.

Martin

Re: 1911 Indian single build

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:08 am
by cobrafreak
Well the only way you will get one is to buy a welder and visit the steel shop. But I have $1700.00 in parts and materials. I put my labor at about $2500.00, but for me it's free, so no big deal. If you want a production replica motorcycle you could buy one from timeless motor company, but they are around 10k. Cheaper to learn to weld and do it yourself.

Re: 1911 Indian single build

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:48 am
by Kingshead
cobrafreak wrote:Well the only way you will get one is to buy a welder and visit the steel shop. But I have $1700.00 in parts and materials. I put my labor at about $2500.00, but for me it's free, so no big deal. If you want a production replica motorcycle you could buy one from timeless motor company, but they are around 10k. Cheaper to learn to weld and do it yourself.
From your first post I thought maybe you were going to build them for customers. Let me knoww if at some time you decide to do this, definitely interested, and may know others also.

Martin