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this is bad....

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:20 pm
by vega44
www.utrave.org

http://www.utrave.org/media/fascism.wmv

HERE ARE ALL THE LINKS AND VIDEOS!
http://www.utrave.org/showthread.php?t=20170

by Rodan

Last night at 10:00 PM I arrived at a party in the Spanish Fork canyon. I was excited to be there to listen to the great electronic artists that had traveled for to play for the crowd.

Before coming to the event I researched it extensively. The party was %100 percent legal and legit with all permits and necessary security required by law being acquired. The event was well organized, with garbage cans, porta potties, and rope lines blocking off parts of the area that you could no go into.

Now I want you to know that many people out there consider ravers a bunch of drug taking freaks. I also want you to know that that is a stereotype that is passed down through legions of undereducated parents, politicians, and media. There are many of us who are drug free party goers who attend these events for a pure love of the music.

So on to my point. At around 11:00 I was enjoying the good vibes and great music. Then at about 11:30 pm a helicopter began circling the party. Out of nowhere huge semis filled with national guard, swat, and the police rolled up. Soldiers came out of the bushes and rushed down to the party. Carrying M-16s, Ak-47s, nightsticks, and tazers. They proceeded to attack random people and push their might around on people who had done nothing wrong.

I saw about 7 people attacked (before being forced to leave). I saw two of them right in front of me. One was a guy who was walking around with a camcorder stunned at what was happening. A soldier told him to give him the camera now. The raver said no it is my camera. The soldier then proceeded to grab the camera, throw it to the ground and then began beating the kid. In the end they threw him to the ground violently an put their knee into his back while handcuffing him. All for wanting to keep his property. When I last saw him he was knocked out and unmoving.

Another girl next to me said to one of the soldiers that she didn't know how to get home as they had just arrested her friend. The soldier told her to walk home. My friend tried to grab her to bring her with us, but the soldier began yelling that she had touched him (which she hadn't). WIthin seconds, five soldiers had jumped on her and were literally beating the crap out of this innocent women. She was punched in the face, thrown to the ground, and kicked while down. All for worrying how to get home safely. She is now suing.

The soldiers proceeded to attack anyone with cameras or camcorders, obviously wanting to restrict the film that got out about it. This was not a legal attack, it was a blatant violation on our rights as American citizens. And the swat, police, politicians who authorized this, and the national guard knew this. That is why they were removing potential evidence.

We were treated as terrorists, innocent kids without weapons or even violent thoughts in their minds were manhandled, treated like terrorists, and forced to stop doing what we were by constitutional rights allowed to be doing. Our rights were completely removed from us. It was if we had visited the 1960s or communist China.

I hope for the sake of the American people that the news media does not let the lies of the government blind them to what truly happened last night. This could happen anywhere to anyone not just ravers, so AMERICA DON'T LET THIS STAND!

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:34 pm
by jmillheiser
this would be the first time Ive heard of soliders raiding a rave. Police raids are common even at legal ones, but not national gaurd.

Thankfully the few raves we have had in wyoming have not been raided. The last 3 that took place in cheyenne all were legal and had police present conducting drug/weapon searches on all people as they entered the site. All 3 went on without incident.

Im wondering if this story on utrave is a hoax

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:37 pm
by jmillheiser
ok just read a news story on the event. not a hoax.

since there is no video of the event there is nothing to back up the claims.

just sounds like another police raid on a rave

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:52 pm
by jmillheiser
ok finally found a working link for the video.

my suspicions were confirmed, typical police raid. looked to be 8 officers (a swat team). looks like the DJs and most of the ravers were left alone, just a few troublemakers were picked up.

This however demonstrates a serious lack of communitaton between the county and the sheriff, since the organizers of the rave claim they had permits.

Still excessive force for what is really just a group of teens most of whom will just scatter a first sight of a cop anyway.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:56 pm
by Mintbread
There is video of the "raid" at the utrave site. The soldiers all looked pretty casual as they wandered in.

It is highly doubtful that the government, local police and the military conspired to illegally head over to a local rave and stomp on a few druggo's. There must have been a purpose other than what is initially evident.

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:46 am
by bennettoid
This probably belongs in "The Soap Box"

And I want to here the other side of the story.

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:20 am
by Loonette
bennettoid wrote:This probably belongs in "The Soap Box"
Agreed, and moved.

Cheers,
Loonette

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:14 am
by 9000white
they did the same thing to some of our KKK meetings here.

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:25 am
by TechTMW
:LOL2:

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 2:17 pm
by Relsek
lowlux wrote: Carrying M-16s, Ak-47s, nightsticks, and tazers. They proceeded to attack random people and push their might around on people who had done nothing wrong.
Our military now carries ak-47s?