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The local riders are real winners. Yesterday's victim was a guy on his first bike, a brand new Kawi 636. Wadded his bike, rashed both side of it, probably a writeoff. He was wearing at least some gear, so there isn't too much wrong with him. He did have a near-miss with a footpeg and his... equipment... down there. From what I hear, it rashed up his funbag a little bit and gave him a puncture wound to the thigh. He went to the hospital, got checked up and sent on his way.

Thank God my two friend who are RNs were on the ride with him and could help him out until they got to the hospital.

Still, what a way to blow $6,000. This has only solidified my resolve to not ride with anyone outside my core group of friends who ride their own ride.

probably showing his mastery of the machine.man is the master.

That's one way to break-in a bike.


Tom

More information (still secondhand): He still owes $7,000 on the bike.

His puncture wound was roughly 3" deep into this thigh, just barely missing the main artery. I believe if that was severed he wouldn't be alive today.

Remember, kids - statistics apply to everyone but you, including this guy!

Okay, so what is your point? To make us laugh? It's not funny! To say you 'Told us so!' In reality this can happen to anyone at anytime riding anything. Newbies are more prone to accidents, I agree. But anyone can have an accident. Just because you are no longer a newbie doesn't mean you are incapable of a mishap.

P.S. You don't mention how he/she went down. I could have easily happened on a 250cc.

funinaz wrote:Okay, so what is your point? To make us laugh? It's not funny! To say you 'Told us so!' In reality this can happen to anyone at anytime riding anything. Newbies are more prone to accidents, I agree. But anyone can have an accident. Just because you are no longer a newbie doesn't mean you are incapable of a mishap.

P.S. You don't mention how he/she went down. I could have easily happened on a 250cc.

like most, probably too much bike, not enough experience

funinaz wrote:Okay, so what is your point? To make us laugh? It's not funny! To say you 'Told us so!' In reality this can happen to anyone at anytime riding anything. Newbies are more prone to accidents, I agree. But anyone can have an accident. Just because you are no longer a newbie doesn't mean you are incapable of a mishap.

P.S. You don't mention how he/she went down. I could have easily happened on a 250cc.

Show me a 250 that can pull the wheel up from too much throttle in second gear, stock, and I'll show you a 250 I wouldn't recommend to a beginner.

I am not sure what my point is. Maybe the fact every single new rider I know of in the area has dropped their bike multiple times and/or have wadded them up pretty badly?

The repairs due to their inexperience will cost more than any of the starter bikes the older, mature and informed riders suggested before they went out and bought those brand new bikes, anyways.

It's just frustrating.

There are probably several points, but one is that a newbie has no business on a bike of the ZX636 caliber. It is NOT a rookie bike, and the scuffed-up rider in this thread is but one example of the truth in that statement.

While I don't disagree with any comment about the appropriatness of a 'larger' bike for a beginner, I'm starting to get real tired of all of the negative comments and frightening stories people have a tendancy to make and share.

Stories about bad accidents, comments such as "...your gonna die.." and such really do a lot to ones psyche as well as perpetuate the "motorcycles are bad" mentality.

I'm not sure that such scare tactics are appropriate to warn unknowning riders, if that is truly the point.

I believe that motorcyles represent a higher level of risk than most other modes of transportation. I also believe that the rider must knowingly accept and fully understand that risk. It would seem that some do not, hence the accidents that are told here in these forums.

Let's try to be encouraging to those of us who are new to riding, have heeded the advice posted in these forums, and are mature enough to ride smartly and safely. For those other riders, we can only continue to steer them towards the Stickies and provide good, positive advice, not scare tactics. And if they choose not to heed the advice, them we ignore them as they made the choice not us. We are afterall, a community to help each other out, not someone's parent.

funinaz wrote:While I don't disagree with any comment about the appropriatness of a 'larger' bike for a beginner, I'm starting to get real tired of all of the negative comments and frightening stories people have a tendancy to make and share.

Stories about bad accidents, comments such as "...your gonna die.." and such really do a lot to ones psyche as well as perpetuate the "motorcycles are bad" mentality.

I'm not sure that such scare tactics are appropriate to warn unknowning riders, if that is truly the point.

I believe that motorcyles represent a higher level of risk than most other modes of transportation. I also believe that the rider must knowingly accept and fully understand that risk. It would seem that some do not, hence the accidents that are told here in these forums.

Let's try to be encouraging to those of us who are new to riding, have heeded the advice posted in these forums, and are mature enough to ride smartly and safely. For those other riders, we can only continue to steer them towards the Stickies and provide good, positive advice, not scare tactics. And if they choose not to heed the advice, them we ignore them as they made the choice not us. We are afterall, a community to help each other out, not someone's parent.

I think you missed the point. It's not "if you ride, you will die," it's "if you start on a race-replica bikes that guys who have been riding since they have been walking need practice to master, you're going to die."

Exaggerated, but it gets to the point. Too bad everyone still ignores it, since it won't happen to them. Just like the 636 rider. Or the SV650S rider the other week. Or the GSXR1000 rider the week before that.