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Like the Title said I'm a newbee and base on what I read here I should not buy either since they are not good beginers bikes but I believe I need to buy something I like.

Sport bikes specially new ones are the ones I will really like to owned, Im very responsible driver, Have driven a CBR 600 a couple of times and respected its power never passes the 60 miles per hour mark since my inexperience on it was telling menot to get into unknown teritory.

I might take the couse before I buy one but what I need from you guys is your honest opinion in wich is a better bike Specially bank for the buck, Here are the small facts..

Yamaha R1 2001 --> 15,000 miles , The price is set to 7,800 and I believe I might get it for 7,500, One owner, Aftermarket exhaust, and carbon fiber accesories, header, beautiful paint job and some others..Basically stock

ZX636 2003 $7,500 with only 6,000 miles o it. Aftermarket exhaust and header, Thats about it, since is basically new everything looks awsome..

I like both rides but the R1 is one of my favorite, Base on power I'm not sure if they are comparable since kawasaki new sport bikes are so cutting edge but I'm just learning here

I'm looking into other bikes, I like CBR 959 or 54 can't remember, Susuki gxs 600r - and 750 Srad...

Wich one will be better buy, The 636 because is basically new or the R1, Wich one will sell qicker later on if I decide to sell it?

What should I look other than looks in a bike?,
?Price of parts , performance, reliability?

Your coments will be appreciated,

If you're looking for validation of what you admit no one here recommends as a beginner bike. Don't expect it to happen.

Taking the MSF course FIRST is probably the most important way to reduce the likelihood that you'll wad up either bike...

There are so many things that you have no idea that you are clueless about there is no way to recommend one of the choices you list. The thing is that you make the learning curve so much more difficult for yourself by starting out on a bike that is 'tweaky' - you're just adding more variables into what you are trying to get your body to learn.

Look into insurance costs for both bikes... that may help decide which to get. Which one can you afford to total?

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You will be flamed on this forum for suggesting to buy those bikes as a noob!

I''m awared of the dangers although not enough knowledge of how to avoid them, I will take the course before buying it, But I made my mind I will go with one of this Sport bikes,

What I really need from you guys is your honest opinion with facts abouth wich one is better, consider other ones as wel, CBR954, susuki gsxr 600, 750 Srad.

Wich one is a better bike to buy if they are in the same price range 7,000 - 8,000. If I need parts or accesories , wich ones will be cheaper easier to find, Also wich one will sell quuicker the R1 or the ZX636.. Wich one will retain its value.
I need this info before buying.

Once more thanks for the concerns abouth buying a sport bike for a newbee I will keep you guys posted on my progression...

LION, Thanks I will check on insurance since that might be something that help me decide any futher comments in wich one is a better buy for the Money

Vit0r wrote:You will be flamed on this forum for suggesting to buy those bikes as a noob!

No he won't...at least not from me. I understand where he's coming from.

First off let me say that about 1 month ago I was in the same boat. I wanted an '05 Suzuki GSX-R600 brand spankin new because it was my "dream bike." I've changed my strategy a bit though. While I still want that bike (although now I want the '06 of course) I decided I'd like to live long enough to enjoy it, and I wanted to be good enough on 2 wheels to be able to get the full enjoyment out of it. What's the point of having all that power and looks if you can't control it? Why not take some time to learn how to properly ride and then step up?

For me, learning the fundamentals is most important. Will I ever get my dream bike? I'm pretty darn sure I will. It probably won't even be that long, maybe a year or two. But in that year or two of "newbie time" I can learn enough to keep me alive and riding for a long time.

On top of that an '05 Gixxer 600 would have cost me about 5 grand a year to insure, and I have a perfect driving record...

Just my

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I have to agree 2000% with Lion Lady. We arent trying to down you or anything, but you honestly dont have a clue.

Let me put it bluntly. Get whatever bike you want, we live in America. Dont come here and expect people to tell you which bike you should get, because you shouldnt get any one of those, period. You can be a huge knucklehead and ignore experience,common sense, and logical reasoning- thats up to you.

You came here for advice- dont even consider any of the bikes you listed. Im sure you can find forums that will tell you that you can learn on those bikes, go find those forums.

Here some talking points for ya:

#1- your whole attitude screams of testosterone driven squid. You will likely kill or maim yourself at some time or another.

#2- Riding race replica bikes requires skills that you just dont have. Aquiring those skills requires more patience than you probably have and you will likely wad your bike riding far beyond your abilities.

#3- You just sound stupid.

SQUID = Super Quick Under-dressed Imminently Dead

You sir are a squid. Ok, maybe I am downing you.

It does not matter which one of those bikes you choose because you will not be able to touch the potential of either of them. Quite frankly, it's just stupid to consider either one of them at your point. But I'm sure you already know all there is to know, so just pick the one you look best on.

Swatter, I agree with some of your points, but flaming azsuptt will just incline him to go elsewhere.



AZSUPPT:

Consider a used bike to get started on. Yeah they generally don't look too sharp. One can be gotten for $2K or less and sold in 6 months when you're done, for what you paid or even a profit. Costing you nothing but gas and insurance for its use.

Even fighter pilots spend seat/beginner time in a single engine propellerl driven trainer before they ever sit in a jet. There is sooo much to learn.

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I took the MSF course a couple of weeks ago. The instructors echoed the same tone, warning against even 600 super-sport bikes as first bikes. Buying a liter bike as a first bike does not seem like a smart move. Imagine giving a 15 yr old a Ferrari while the ink is still drying on his learners permit. Of course you will still do it anyway.