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my starts are slow, i let the bike move slowly and then that's only when i use more throttle.

so far, this one is where i feel like im at a disadvantage on my bike since i know this bike can wheelie from a stop so i don't feel comfortable practicing fast starts.

i think learning fast starts can help in an emergency, right?

anyway... got any tips for me?

and also if for some reason my bike gets a little air, should i release the throttle or keep using the throttle?

thanks in advance

well first, is this your first bike? About starting faster, just takes time and practice. Whe you start give it more gas, not like a lot more, just more than you useally do. Keep adding more gas until you feel your getting off faster. Best to practice it in a parking lot just in case you fall or pull the front wheel off. But its pretty easy, just find out how much throttel you need to use to get off quick and get used to doing that. As for wheelies, i have never done one, but i would wager you want to hold onto the gas a little bit then slow down to place your front tire back down. If you just instantly drop the throttle the tire will come back down sure, but if your not balanced or not going fast enough i would think it would bounce and could become a problem. But im sure someone else here has better knowledge about such things.



JWF

yeah, first bike... i know... not a good idea

but thanks, i'll try that

i did already practice starting quicker but without using more throttle than usual, but my engine dies on me. if i slowly release the clutch then my starts are very slow.

i'll practice more and find a middle ground to start faster without popping a wheelie.

PS. i have no interest in bike stunts but i would like to learn how to drive like a racer, the circuit type not drag type. im not a big fan of drag racing.

VermilionX wrote:my starts are slow, i let the bike move slowly and then that's only when i use more throttle.

so far, this one is where i feel like im at a disadvantage on my bike since i know this bike can wheelie from a stop so i don't feel comfortable practicing fast starts.

i think learning fast starts can help in an emergency, right?

anyway... got any tips for me?

and also if for some reason my bike gets a little air, should i release the throttle or keep using the throttle?

thanks in advance

I rode a bike like yours yesterday. Your not going to loop it unless you give it an awful lot of throttle. Just get used to the throttle and clutch and quicker starts will come naturally. About coming down, you have to be careful, if you accidentally bring the wheel up, you will naturally release the throttle causing the front to come down hard. You may even begin talking in a high picthed voice for a few minutes. Once I brought mine up by mistake, slammed it down, when the front wheel hit, it cause my throttle hand to twist backward causing another wheelie, when I let that one down, I felt a sudden pain in my ribs because of my wife's fist. She was riding with me. A passenger makes the wheelies that much easier.

Relsek wrote: I rode a bike like yours yesterday. Your not going to loop it unless you give it an awful lot of throttle. Just get used to the throttle and clutch and quicker starts will come naturally. About coming down, you have to be careful, if you accidentally bring the wheel up, you will naturally release the throttle causing the front to come down hard. You may even begin talking in a high picthed voice for a few minutes. Once I brought mine up by mistake, slammed it down, when the front wheel hit, it cause my throttle hand to twist backward causing another wheelie, when I let that one down, I felt a sudden pain in my ribs because of my wife's fist. She was riding with me. A passenger makes the wheelies that much easier.

that was funny but very informative. "high pitched voice" ...hehehe

thanks, i'll do what you said.

VermilionX wrote:PS. i have no interest in bike stunts but i would like to learn how to drive like a racer, the circuit type not drag type. im not a big fan of drag racing.

http://www.superbikeschool.com/
Right there in LA
They have a two day camp, $2050. Though they do provide you with everything, including gear and bike so there's no reason to hurt your if you go down.

VermilionX wrote:yeah, first bike... i know... not a good idea

but thanks, i'll try that

i did already practice starting quicker but without using more throttle than usual, but my engine dies on me. if i slowly release the clutch then my starts are very slow.

i'll practice more and find a middle ground to start faster without popping a wheelie.

PS. i have no interest in bike stunts but i would like to learn how to drive like a racer, the circuit type not drag type. im not a big fan of drag racing.

ya, not the best starter bike but hey, if you can learn on that then you should be ok. As for slow clutch, man, you got a proformance bike, give it some juice and go, with a bike like that i would say you could almost, ALMOST, just drop the clutch and it would catch, but just give it a decent 5-7rpm and let the clutch go a little quicker, thats how i take off faster, just keep working.


JWF

GeoffXR200R wrote: http://www.superbikeschool.com/
Right there in LA
They have a two day camp, $2050. Though they do provide you with everything, including gear and bike so there's no reason to hurt your if you go down.

wow! i read the 2 day camp and it sounds like a great idea. plus, like you said, right here in LA.

it's so interesting that they have a "brake bike", "lean bike" and "slide bike"

im gonna save up for that.

thanks for the link

JWF505 wrote: ya, not the best starter bike but hey, if you can learn on that then you should be ok. As for slow clutch, man, you got a proformance bike, give it some juice and go, with a bike like that i would say you could almost, ALMOST, just drop the clutch and it would catch, but just give it a decent 5-7rpm and let the clutch go a little quicker, thats how i take off faster, just keep working.

5-7 rpm and release the clutch? hmmm... i'll try this next time i go to the under-used parking lot near here. although i'll just go w/ 5 rpm.

thanks

JWF505 wrote: ya, not the best starter bike but hey, if you can learn on that then you should be ok. As for slow clutch, man, you got a proformance bike, give it some juice and go, with a bike like that i would say you could almost, ALMOST, just drop the clutch and it would catch, but just give it a decent 5-7rpm and let the clutch go a little quicker, thats how i take off faster, just keep working.

5-7 rpm and release the clutch? hmmm... i'll try this next time i go to the under-used parking lot near here. although i'll just go w/ 5 rpm.

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ya every bike is different, my 5-7rpm is my normal release range, 5 or so for normal, 7 and sometimes higher for a quicker start

JWF

A tip if you DO happen to wheelie it. EASE off the throttle and try hard not to lean the bike over. If you wheelie so you're pointing your nose at the sky (eep!) apply rear brake and ease off the throttle, probably the best way to get down on all two wheels. Though, if you learn to wheelie, and wheelie well (i'm talking turning on one wheel and still setting it down controlled) you'll be a better rider for it. I mean, if you can fine tune your balance that well on ONE wheel, imagine how it'll be on TWO. Though i wouldn't practice with your shiny new bike. I'd recomend finding a cheap beater dirt bike for under $1000 and taking it out to the desert, you'd be suprised how much you can learn from riding dirt. And dirst is softer and less abrasive than pavement, so you can get away with an $80 HJC helmet, dirt bike boots, and a heavier jacket and pants, and some cheap work gloves (ONLY for the dirt though).