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I passed. Now for the rest.

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:41 am
by IrishJim
Havent posted here in a while but ive been reading all the time. I just passed my CBT on sat there. so much fun. And passed my theory test a few months ago. So happy. Had to go back there on sat from two weeks ago as it got dark quite early in the day so i just had a few things to finnish off. Im starting my full training hopefully in march up here in glasgow. :D

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:46 am
by VermilionX
i dunno what you just passed but congrats anyway. :laughing:

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:03 am
by Shiv
He's in Europe. It's what they use to get their L plates which restricts them to a 125cc I believe.


Their test is broken into theory (the easy part) and the driving part (the hard part). They don't get waivers like we do and some instructors are bottoms and will give you a major deduction (automatic fail) for the simplest mistakes.

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:18 am
by VermilionX
Shiv wrote:He's in Europe. It's what they use to get their L plates which restricts them to a 125cc I believe.


Their test is broken into theory (the easy part) and the driving part (the hard part). They don't get waivers like we do and some instructors are bottoms and will give you a major deduction (automatic fail) for the simplest mistakes.
i see, no wonder they get the cool honda CBR125. i bet it's the most popular beginner bike over there.

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those are nice looking beginner bikes! 8)

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:39 am
by IrishJim
yea. We have to get the theory test out of the way, then the CBT. comp bike training. That restricts you to a 125 if you are under 21. Restricted for 2 years or until you hit 21. If over 21 you can sit direct access and go on any bike. Once you pass your practical test after the cbt, you are again restricted for 2 years to a bike not over 33bhp. Or if you are over 21 any size at all. Its a pain, but it has cut down greatly in the number of deaths from bikers. As you need some training to actually be allowed on the road.

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:04 am
by VermilionX
hmmm... good thing we don't have such restrictions.

do bike manufacturers over there complain about those restrictions? they could be making a lot more money if they could sell their better more powerful bikes to anyone.

so what's the most popular beginner bike over there? is it the CBR125?

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:38 am
by jackM50black
Hey, that is a nice 125cc Honda. I took my MSF riding course and trained on a Suzuki 125 Eliminator (what it could "eliminate" with 125cc's I don't know), the bike was so tiny for me I had to sit up on the rear pillion seat. It was the first motorcycle I'd ever rode, but the size was the problem for me.... A standard 125 would have been better., but the Honda looks cool.

Restrictions

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:18 am
by chwilson0607
Group,

That really doesn't sound like a bad idea. I think here in the US, it seems there are too many anxious riders that go and buy a bike way too powerful for their skill level. Rather than getting something a little more sensible and safe, they seem to be more concerned with what they will look cool on.


Carl

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:19 am
by Shiv
America would do better with such restrictions. Maybe then the negative image of bikers and a bike = death thing would be eliminated since squids would actually have to ride a 125cc or 33 bhp before they can buy the 100 bhp GSXR.

Not a shot at you verm, just people in general who get themselves killed and then soccer moms go "I wonder why he died..he was only doing 120" :roll:


Anyways they get bikes that are restricted and then I believe they have ot pay the bike to be unrestricted, so that's probably how the manufacturer's cope. They get to charge more for a restricted bike and then charge again for unrestricting it.

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:12 pm
by Kal
<<<slams head into bars repeatedly and tries to eat Americans>>>

The next person who refers to part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain, Scotland, Wales and the territory of Northen Ireland being Europe is going to be hurt. Okay?

Britain has the CBT, so evidently the young man in question is from Britain. Europe across the water makes its own arrangements.

CBT is a day and much like the way the MSF is described. Direct Access is 15-25 hours minimum training followed by a practical test by the DVLA in a live environment. You don't need the theory for the CBT (riding a sub 125cc bike) but you do to get a full licence.

And having taken the Theory test I can say you should respect the man. The theory is split into a multiple choice test based mostly on the highway code and the Hazard Awareness test. I cannot describe to you just how awful the Hazard Awarness Test is. Basiclly you are shown video clips on computer of 'normal' driving situations and you have to tell the computer when you see a 'developing hazard' the earlier you spot it once the computer starts scoring the more points you get. If you tap the button too many times it kicks you for cheating and you lose the points.

Its a B!^@h in heat to do.

CBR125 isnt the best selling Bike over here by a long way. Best selling sub 125 would probaly be the Honda CG125 or C90 step through. although in recent years its completely opened up with China and Korea producing copies of both.

125cc Sports Bike-wise the best seller wouold probably have to be the Aprillia 125 or Milo.