Need endurance for long rides - need suggestions

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Need endurance for long rides - need suggestions

#1 Unread post by flw » Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:14 am

End of last season I bought a Gold wing for some touring. Only had about two months left in the season so I got comfortable with the bike weight and general size but not my personal endurance for distance.

I would like to take a couple nice long rides this summer but need to build up my endurance and see what I can safely do.

In a step program how far should I start out and then increase by a factor of what when ok with the starting distance? All distances are in round trip. So I was thinking of step one being 200 miles.

Personal info. Started riding again 4 years ago and have 15,000 mile from country roads to the interstates. I'm around 50 years old and do have a lower back issue. Also else if fine.

Once comfortable with that 200 round trip, what would be the logical next round trip distance and so on ? I'll be riding by myself and I'd like to complete my distance training in one month over 4 to 5 weekends only.

Suggestions?

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Re: Need endurance for long rides - need suggestions

#2 Unread post by Gummiente » Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:09 am

If you want to build up your endurance for long rides, you can shorten the training process significantly by stepping up your physical fitness level. The more "in shape" you are, the better you are able to tolerate sitting on a bike for long periods of time. A bit of weight training will help develop the muscles needed to manouever the bike, as well as help strengthen the lower back - which is a critical factor in ride comfort. You'll need to consult with your doctor to see what methods and levels of weight training are suitable for your condition.

Starting out with 200mi round trips is a good idea, then you can just increase the distances as much as you are able to handle. An important part of long distance traveling is to take regular scheduled breaks, I find that a 10 minute stop (which includes rehydrating, stretching exercises and a short walk) every 2hrs goes a long ways towards extending my riding day.
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Re: Need endurance for long rides - need suggestions

#3 Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:06 am

Gummiente has some great points above. Let me add that staying dry and warm also will add to your endurance as well as packing some quick energy foods and water on your bike as well.

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Re: Need endurance for long rides - need suggestions

#4 Unread post by Lion_Lady » Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:59 pm

Check this article out. http://www.masondixon20-20.org/Fatigue.pdf Written by an accomplished long distance rider and former Surgeon General of the US Navy.

There are some interesting points made.

From personal experience I've got to agree with the recommendation of getting yourself in better physical condition. No need to run any marathons, just make a it a point to be more active. I've seen the results myself, in an annual ride I make from Baltimore,MD to Wilmington, NC. In my "unfit" condition, I'm mentally (and physically) fading before I reach the southern VA border. In my "fit" condition, I'm not even aware of being fatigued at that same point in the ride, and arrive at the hotel feeling only a bit stiff/tired from the trip.

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#5 Unread post by JC Viper » Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:12 am

Stretching does wonders for long distance riding. Make the most out of gas stops and you should be doing a routine before you go on a long trip. The neck, back and shoulders are critical points.

Do some neck rotations, turn the head side to side, tilt the head side to side, up and down then move on to the shoulders and do a forward stretch then a backward stretch, preferably holding onto a bar. The backward stretch should be done carefully because you would be lowering your body while the arms are holding onto a bar in back of you palm facing downward. Then move on to various back stretches and leg stretches. This should help loosen you up and get blood flowing. If you're in sub optimal shape consult a doctor. Men's Health Weight Free Workout is a nice book to have.

Dress to keep warm and dry if it's cool out, keep hydrated and vented if warm/ hot.

Also take deep relaxed breaths/ breathe calmly/ breathe in general. I know it sounds odd but proper breathing has a big effect on mental and muscle health. Many of my ex-riding buddies told me they get fatigued/ panic easily and I ask them about their breathing. They respond that it's usually short and rapid or they tend to hold in their breath a bit.

I've found that my martial arts training has helped me increase my endurance, even for riding, due to the stretching and exercises. Getting used to riding a long distance is also key. I've been able to ride several hours/ states on a whim at highway speed and with gusting winds thanks to those things.
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#6 Unread post by sapaul » Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:59 am

Diet also plays a part. I love my long distance riding and have no problems with 8-10 hours or even more in the saddle. Over the years I have found that a good diet plays a big part. People will do what is convenient and quick when on the road. Burgers, pizza's and fast foods will all bugger up your metabolism when you ride. Carb spikes and dips will soon leave you feeling tired. Low GI and plenty protein with lots of hydration will increase the endurance by a long way. Also make sure you get plenty sleep before and during the trip. Combine this with the advice above and there is no reason why you cannot do these extended trips.

I recently Marshaled an 8 day cycle tour (there is a thread on TMW) and followed my own advice. There was 20 Marshals on the tour and the vast majority complained about being tired, especially as the adrenalin wore off. SHO, some of these guys were 10-15 years younger than me. I am admittedly overweight and I did not feel the effects that these guys complained about. No sore muscles or aching bones or being overly tired.
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#7 Unread post by sunshine229 » Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:19 am

Sleep well so that you are well rested!
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#8 Unread post by guitardad » Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:01 pm

The tips on fitness are right on point. The other question is: How well does the bike fit you? So starting with your 200 mile trips - what makes you so uncomfortable that you have to get off the bike? Fix that - bar backs, better seat, reposition the foot pegs, whatever it is. Then take another trip, and make it a longer one. 400 miles, maybe. What you'd like to do is to ride until something makes you stop, and then fix that thing. To really fight the ftigue, you want to make the cockpit of your bikek the most comfortable place in the world for you.

Also - you don't say what you consider a long trip. That bit of information might help us with our advice for you.
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#9 Unread post by a_hippie » Tue May 17, 2011 2:31 am

Hi flw:

200 miles is a good start. What hurts after that? Cold, hot? Cramps? how's your back after that little run? How's your neck?

My butt hurt with stock seat. My butt still hurt after I had my saddle rebuilt. I finally had a local rip shop out some stuffing right at my tailbone--that made a HUGE improvement. I had a back rest fabricated and that also made it possible to do more than 12 hours in the saddle. My helmet is full face flip-up and also helps reduce wind, exhaust noise. I added communication bluetooth and that helped with long rides being able to make 2-way contacts and enjoy broadcast FM.

My first big ride on this machine was about 1500 miles. Later I did a two month USA trip of about 10K miles.

When you get tired, stop. I had one day when I had to stop over a dozen times since I kept getting sleepy. No kidding! Sleepy while riding my bike in huge winds in western Oregon/Washington. Anyway, learn what you can do and don't over do it.

Sometimes a motel a few hundred miles down the road is better than . . . . you know what I mean.

ride safe and enjoy the bike.

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#10 Unread post by roscowgo » Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:04 pm

what they all said in spades.

do so e fitness training.
get the right stuff to keep you comfy while you ride
eat good nutritious food so your body is ticking along correctly

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#11 Unread post by Marvin » Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:54 pm

I agree exersize, but the best is build up a set of 6 pack abs, when you have muscles in the front of your stomach it takes away the force of your back muscles supporting your upper weight, get a simple small wheel and axle and get on the floor like your doing push-ups, but on ur knees instead of your toes and hold both ends of the axle with your hands and do push ups as the wheel turns away and toward you, it will hurt at first but after a while it will be easy, but do it without coming full down on the floor, plus you'll look good with no shirt on and the women will want to have sex with you.
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#12 Unread post by Johnj » Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:18 pm

Sound too much like work. I'll ride my bike instead.
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Re: Need endurance for long rides - need suggestions

#13 Unread post by 1poser » Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:57 pm

Well flw, you've got a handfull of good advice here and I'll ditto Gummiente, Lion Lady, JC Viper and sapaul.

I'm 53 and mind-set is what's got me through the IBA (Iron Butt Association) 1500 miles in 24hrs and the 50CC (IBA allows 50 hrs coast to coast) I did it from San Diego, CA to Atlantic Beach, FL in 38hrs. All of what was said about fitness, diet, clothing, comfort and rest are all important, but being the most fit, correctly geared up and the best of comfortable accessories won't do any good without the proper mind-set and will power. The power of the mind has willed me to finish my second 1500 miles in 24hrs.

You get to know who you are when riding and riding long distances REALLY get's you connected. Do the 200 miles, then 300 miles, then 500 miles in 8hrs then see if this is really meant for you, if so, go for 700 miles in 12hrs. Your Goldwing is plenty plush and made for long distances so it's a matter of getting your mind-set into this.

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