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Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:18 am

2017 Harley-Davidson Milwaukee-Eight 107/114 Engines

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2017 Harley-Davidson Milwaukee-Eight 107/114 Engines

Harley Big Twin Delivers More Performance and Comfort...

Milwaukee-Eight™ engines


We're proud to introduce the next generation of Harley-Davidson® V-Twin engines to our Touring line: the all-new Milwaukee-Eight™ 107 and Milwaukee-Eight™ 114 engines.


Their iconic look, distinctive sound and massive torque make them instantly recognizable, but the Milwaukee-Eight™ 107 and Milwaukee-Eight™ 114 engines take the Harley-Davidson® V-Twin to a place it's never been. They're the most powerful, coolest-running motors we've ever built. Smoother, stronger and more durable. With crisper throttle response and truer, cleaner sound. Four valves per cylinder, single chain-driven cam, dual spark plugs, counterbalanced and rubber-mounted.


Developed and proven over countless miles and millions of hours. Every single part is new, engineered to give you more performance and more of the feeling you want from an engine.




HARLEY-DAVIDSON ROLLS OUT POWERFUL NEW TOURING MOTORCYCLES


H-D unveils Milwaukee-Eight Engine, Its 9th Big Twin, and new Suspension for 2017 Models


MILWAUKEE (August 23, 2016) – More power. More comfort. More control. Today, Harley-Davidson redefined touring by unveiling the all-new Milwaukee-Eight™ engine, the ninth Big Twin in its history, plus all-new front and rear suspension for its Model Year 2017 Touring motorcycle lineup.


“These are the most powerful, most responsive and most comfortable Touring motorcycles ever offered by Harley-Davidson,” said Scott Miller, Vice-President of Styling and Product Development Strategy. “The unmistakable look, sound and feel of Harley-Davidson Touring motorcycles rise to even greater heights with the improvements we’ve made this year. You truly have to ride it to feel it – so we’re inviting all riders to go to their local dealer and take a test ride.”


New Milwaukee-Eight Engine


The new Milwaukee-Eight engine, the ninth Big Twin design in the company’s storied lineage, is a clean-sheet design that combines the classic look, sound and feel of Harley-Davidson Big Twin engines with improvements in every aspect of engine performance.
“The Milwaukee-Eight engine carries the legacy of Harley-Davidson Big Twins into the future,” said Chief Powertrain Engineer Alex Bozmoski. “While respecting the essential Big Twin character, we’ve created an all-new motor. Every aspect of performance, durability and styling has been improved as a direct response to the voice of Harley-Davidson customers around the world.”


Retaining the classic 45-degree V-Twin cylinder angle, the Milwaukee-Eight engine produces 10 percent more torque than previous year models and features four-valve cylinder heads that offer 50 percent more intake and exhaust flow capacity. The Milwaukee-Eight engine is counter-balanced to cancel 75 percent of primary vibration at idle, retaining the classic feel of a Harley® V-Twin while being very smooth at highway speeds. A new heat management strategy for all Milwaukee-Eight engines improves rider and passenger comfort.


Milwaukee-Eight engines are offered in two displacements: the Milwaukee-Eight 107 (107 CID/1750cc) and Twin-Cooled™ Milwaukee-Eight 107 (107 CID/1750cc) for standard motorcycle models and the Twin-Cooled™ Milwaukee-Eight 114 (114 CID/1870cc) for Harley-Davidson® Custom Vehicle Operations (CVO)™ motorcycle models.


2017 Harley-Davidson Milwaukee-Eight 107/114 http://www.Totalmotorcycle.com Key Features

NEW MILWAUKEE-EIGHT™ ENGINES FEATURE:
- More Power - Larger displacement, 4-valve heads and higher compression ratio produce 10% more torque
- Quicker Acceleration - 2-3 bike lengths faster from 0-60 mph; 1-2 bike lengths faster from 60-80 mph in top gear
- Heat Management - Improved rider and passenger comfort, thanks to reduced heat absorption, increased heat rejection and redesigned exhaust system
- Improved Fit - Thanks to a narrow primary and optimized air cleaner shape
- Reduced Vibration - New internal single counter-balancer, provides a smoother, more refined feel at idle
- Richer Exhaust Note - Less mechanical powertrain noise allows more iconic V-Twin rumble due to lighter valves, optimized cover designs and driveline improvements
- Lower Idle Speed - Creates a better sound and less heat
- Improved Charging - 50% more output to meet increased touring accessory needs


New Milwaukee-Eight engines will power every 2017 Harley-Davidson Touring and Trike motorcycle model. Milwaukee-Eight engines will be offered in two displacements and three variations:

Milwaukee-Eight 107 (107 CID, 1750cc) featuring precision oil-cooled cylinder heads for the Street Glide®/Street Glide® Special, Road Glide®/Road Glide Special®, Electra Glide® Ultra Classic®, Road King® and Freewheeler® models.

Twin-Cooled™ Milwaukee-Eight 107 (107 CID, 1750cc) featuring liquid-cooled cylinder heads for the Ultra Limited/Ultra Limited Low, Road Glide® Ultra and Tri Glide® Ultra models.

Twin-Cooled Milwaukee-Eight 114 (114 CID,1870cc) featuring liquid-cooled cylinder heads for the CVO™ Limited and CVO™ Street Glide® models.



ENGINE
Engine 1 Milwaukee-Eight™ 107

Bore 100 mm
Stroke 111.1 mm
Displacement 1,746 cc
Compression Ratio 10:1
Fuel System 3 Electronic Sequential Port Fuel Injection (ESPFI)

PERFORMANCE
Engine Torque Testing Method J1349
Engine Torque 111.4 ft-lb
Engine Torque (rpm) 3,250
Lean Angle, Right (deg.) 32
Lean Angle, Left (deg.) 31
Fuel Economy: Combined City/Hwy 45 mpg


ENGINE
Engine Twin-Cooled™ Milwaukee-Eight™ 114

Bore 102 mm
Stroke 114.3 mm
Displacement 1,8681 cc
Compression Ratio 10.5:1
Fuel System Electronic Sequential Port Fuel Injection (ESPFI)

PERFORMANCE
Engine Torque Testing Method J1349
Engine Torque 124 ft-lb
Engine Torque (rpm) 3,250
Lean Angle, Right (deg.) 34.3
Lean Angle, Left (deg.) 33.4
Fuel Economy: Combined City/Hwy 43 mpg

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Re: This Week: 2017 Harley-Davidson Milwaukee-Eight 107/114 Engines - VOTE NOW

Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:21 am

Ok, I have to admit, this is a little off the beaten path of the Cool Wall. I don't think I've ever had an engine on the Cool Wall before and it will make a weird "coolest bike of the year"... an engine... if it actually came #1 on the cool wall... but the new Harley-Davidson Milwaukee-Eight 107/114 Engines represent another dramatic shift in the Harley-Davidson model line and a H-D engine is really the "soul" of H-D, that I can't discount a great discussion about them!

So enjoy!

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Re: This Week: 2017 Harley-Davidson Milwaukee-Eight 107/114 Engines - VOTE NOW

Unread post by Gummiente » Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:11 pm

Saw one in person today at the local dealer. I'll reserve comment until after all the haters have checked in.
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Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:51 pm

Gummiente wrote:Saw one in person today at the local dealer. I'll reserve comment until after all the haters have checked in.
LOL...

I haven't seen one yet myself, but, as usual, they look impressive. Did you get to hear it run? Does it sound pretty much the same or deeper/different?

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Unread post by Gummiente » Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:25 am

totalmotorcycle wrote:Did you get to hear it run? Does it sound pretty much the same or deeper/different?
Talked to the tech who did the PDI and shakedown run on it. I could repeat his comments, but I'll post a ride report after I get a chance to demo ride one as this particular unit was presold.
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Unread post by ceemes » Sat Aug 27, 2016 8:53 am

It's hard judge an engine on a couple of glamour shots and bare bones spec sheets. They do look like a couple tight and neat engines, but as the say the proof of the pudding is in the eating and the proof of an engine is in how well it runs, does it deliver the power and fuel economy that the manufacturer claims, is it reliable or is going to be in and out of the shop getting fixed all the time? Until those questions are answered, I will reserve judgement and pass on voting, still, nice and tidy looking engine.
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Unread post by Gummiente » Sat Aug 27, 2016 9:03 am

So I'm sitting in the kitchen eating brekkie, when all of a sudden the sky outside turns purple and the ground starts shaking. Then it starts raining down lollipops and ice cream cones and a unicorn goes flitting past overhead. I check the computer and see this post and suddenly it all makes sense...
ceemes wrote:It's hard judge an engine on a couple of glamour shots and bare bones spec sheets. They do look like a couple tight and neat engines, but as the say the proof of the pudding is in the eating and the proof of an engine is in how well it runs, does it deliver the power and fuel economy that the manufacturer claims, is it reliable or is going to be in and out of the shop getting fixed all the time? Until those questions are answered, I will reserve judgement and pass on voting, still, nice and tidy looking engine.
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Gummiente wrote:So I'm sitting in the kitchen eating brekkie, when all of a sudden the sky outside turns purple and the ground starts shaking. Then it starts raining down lollipops and ice cream cones and a unicorn goes flitting past overhead. I check the computer and see this post and suddenly it all makes sense...
ceemes wrote:It's hard judge an engine on a couple of glamour shots and bare bones spec sheets. They do look like a couple tight and neat engines, but as the say the proof of the pudding is in the eating and the proof of an engine is in how well it runs, does it deliver the power and fuel economy that the manufacturer claims, is it reliable or is going to be in and out of the shop getting fixed all the time? Until those questions are answered, I will reserve judgement and pass on voting, still, nice and tidy looking engine.
Unicorns flitting past overhead and ice cream cones falling from the sky eh? Hmmm, makes some sense.....

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Well, that's three minutes of my life I'll never get back. :shock:
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Gummiente wrote:Well, that's three minutes of my life I'll never get back. :shock:
You have only yourself to blame. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Unread post by Gummiente » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:12 pm

Ok, so... ever since the V-Rod first came out I had visions of a punched out motor lifted from one and shoved into a Road Glide chassis. A full on liquid cooled, powerful road muncher that could give the Gold Wing, BMW, etc a serious run for the money. With draconian EPA and Euro pollution regs lurking in the not too distant future, I was convinced that HD would have to see the light sooner or later and make the inevitable step to leave the air cooled motors for the history books. But, no, every year they found new ways to squeeze more efficiency out of the Twin Cam unit, lately at the expense of excessive heat and a class action lawsuit because of it. I figured last year was the furthest they could push the envelope, what with catalytic converters, liquid cooled exhaust ports, big jeezuz pistons and a fuel map so lean you could roast a ham between the cylinders in no time.

Then the news breaks a few days ago... they've gone back to the single cam, but this time with 4 valves per head and even bigger pistons and the result is, apparently, the coolest running and most powerful motor to date. And it FINALLY has a counterbalancer, something that came with the Softail motors since the TC88 first showed up. I spoke to the tech at the local HD boutique who had just completed a PDI and test run on a new Street Glide and his impressions were very favourable. In fact, he was raving about the damn thing. Smooth running, clear mirrors at all speeds, no more 3rd degree burns on the thighs and tons of power on tap. And for the first time since back in 08 when they upped the motor size, added fly by wire throttle and bigger rear tires, I felt something I'd never thought I'd feel again... Interest.

If this motor really does what they says it does, if it provides the reliability they say it will and if it rides as wonderful as they tell me it does... the Harley Road Glide might make it back onto my Top 3 list of bikes that would replace my '07 if I ever get tired of it. I say "if" because I'm from Saskatchewan and I need to see for myself. As soon as the demo fleet comes within reach of where I live, I will ride one. Then I will make my decision. Until then, I am abstaining from this week's vote.

In the mean time, I will continue to view HD's every action with suspicion. Ever since they pulled the rug out from underneath Buell's feet and set MV Augusta adrift, I have steadily lost respect and belief in The Motor Company. And the recent decision to kill off the V-Rod (only 12 units slated for Canada this year, then no more) is not helping any.
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Unread post by ceemes » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:41 pm

Gummiente wrote:, I have steadily lost respect and belief in The Motor Company. And the recent decision to kill off the V-Rod (only 12 units slated for Canada this year, then no more) is not helping any.
Holy crapola, I think I just saw Gummy's unicorn wizzing overhead!!!!!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Unread post by NorthernPete » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:56 pm

That's a motor. Yup.
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Unread post by montanalifter » Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:01 am

I gave it a cool and then changed it to uncool. Just should have not voted. No meh, option. And I almost always vote cool on this forum. I just feel as their next engine it could of been so much more but they probably don't want to offend their faithful. Full liquid cooled, 125-160 or more horses, could still be a twin, or triple. Yeah I know they will never do anything but a twin. Sounds like it will be a good engine from their description anyway.

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Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:35 pm

I voted: Awesome.. it was going to be cool, but H-D scored the extra points they needed in the end FTW.

Can't really fault H-D for making even bigger engines... well, yes I can, didn't they learn "too big to fail" usually does? Didn't H-D see the history of the Kawasaki Vulcan 2000 or the Honda VTX1800 or even the Triumph Rocket III with it's massive 2300cc triple? These bikes didn't do well, not because they didn't have a market or were bad in any way, they were just too much engine, costly, heavy and hot running. Now H-D is getting close to that 2000cc market. It's getting me a little worried as there isn't a smaller cc backup in their big bikes anymore.

That said, I've somewhat criticized Harley-Davidson for their, ahem, lack of innovation... but in the past few years, they are at least putting a good foot forward. Still no Buell R&D (#$@) and no innovation with the V-Rod nor any word of a engine that isn't a V-Twin...

The 107 and 110's should prove successful and they have addressed the weaknesses of the 103's heat issues and vibrations. Shame they can't find away around "the only answer is bigger and heavier" problem...

Speaking of innovation... what's up with the 883 and 1200 Sportster engines? Will H-D EVER innovate those? Basically the same engines since 1983... argh.

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2017 Harley-Davidson Milwaukee-Eight 107/114 Engines - Coolness Factor = 68.1%
Featured: August 26th - September 2nd, 2016
Most popular vote category: Awesome

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Your Coolness Factor of the 2017 Harley-Davidson Milwaukee-Eight 107/114 Engines is:

Awesome (3 points) 52% [ 12 ]
Cool (2 points) 22% [ 5 ]
Uncool (1 point) 4% [ 1 ]
Fail (0 point) 22% [ 5 ]

Total votes: 23

= a Coolwall Factor of 68.1%


Notes: Like Paula Abdul's song "Two steps forward, one step back", Harley-Davidson two-steps along with their new 2017 Harley-Davidson Milwaukee-Eight 107/114 Engines. By remaining true to H-D heritage but complying to ever increasing government regulations, H-D pulls a rabbit out of the hat and does the nearly impossible. Will we see another bigger version in 5 years time? Will the Milwaukee-Eight be the last of the air cooled line? Will the new engine live up to the hype?



Get excited as the next TMW Cool Wall bike for 2016 is now up for voting and discussion, have fun!
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Unread post by Jarlaxle » Fri Sep 02, 2016 6:27 pm

Not fully water-cooled.
Not smooth running.
Still uses the stuck-in-1930 separate primary chain.

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ceemes wrote:
Gummiente wrote:, I have steadily lost respect and belief in The Motor Company. And the recent decision to kill off the V-Rod (only 12 units slated for Canada this year, then no more) is not helping any.
Holy crapola, I think I just saw Gummy's unicorn wizzing overhead!!!!!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Unread post by Hanson » Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:46 am

Horsepower data, new H-D engines, currently lack.

Yoda says when you can't brag about your horsepower, focus attention on your torque. Horsepower is not everything, torque even less so.

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