Record companies greed strikes again

[CNF2002]

Now they are sueing Sat radio because of a device that can record. These guys have gone off the deep end. Since when is it illegal to record music off the radio? Might as well sue for the invention of the CD recorder. I bet they would!

And they want millions in compensation...and they want to hike royalties just for playing the music in the first place now! Just for SAT radio I'm sure. They are going to kill the music industry with their greed. The artists are getting only a fraction of this money, while the big businesses are raking in billions at the cost of the consumer.

I will never buy another CD and will listen to independent net radio if I have to. These people are just too corrupt.

[pinger05]

Now they are sueing Sat radio because of a device that can record. .

But I have a device that can record as well. Maybe I am showing my age but back in the day we had this little rectangle thing with two holes called a "tape".

Ok the sarcasm stops there.

But the point is that recording devices have been around for quite some time. Will they sue FM stations because I can record madona onto a tape (or onto my computer if I have a FM converter) then to a CD??? I would be very intrested to see the article that you are refering to.

[CNF2002]

Check out cnn.com, foxnews.com, etc. Variations of the report can be found in lots of places. At foxnews.com there's even a video clip of a televised report on it.

[pinger05]

If anyone else is intrested here is the link http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,195865,00.html

Intresting article but I think that the President of Public Knolege Gigi Sohn got it right when he said "... this is really a dispute between XM and the recording industry over licensing fees".

[flynrider]

Now they are sueing Sat radio because of a device that can record. These guys have gone off the deep end. Since when is it illegal to record music off the radio? Might as well sue for the invention of the CD recorder. I bet they would!

You must be a youngster In the early days of the VCR, that's exactly what the makers of TV shows did. Universal and Disney sued Sony in the "Betamax case". Their claim was that the VCR would allow consumers to violate copyright laws by recording television programs without permission. If Sony had lost, that would have been the end of the VCR in the U.S. Obviously, they didn't lose.

That doesn't mean the suit against sat radio won't succeed. Copyright laws in the U.S. have been slanted in favor of the copyright holders in recent years. Particularly where digital images and music are concerned. The Digital Millenium Copyright Act gives all the power to the corporate owners.

If you don't like it, don't buy their music or video products. I haven't for years, and if what I hear on the radio is any indication, I'm not missing much.

[MrGompers]

I have not purchased a CD since 2000 and don't plan to ever again. I will purchase used CD's tho on ebay once in a while. The RIAA tax has already been paid on those.

I have Sirius sat radio and I can tell you it's alot better than I ever thought it would be. (I only have it cuz I got 3 months free with my new car & decided to keep it).

Whats really funny about this krap is the quality of the transmission is fairly low. I would imagine XM is the same. Even if I could record the music I wouldn't want to. This move by the RIAA is more about control than it is money.

The RIAA is dumb beyond words. If they banded together with Napster when if first started they would've made billions of dollars by now. Then again it has always been about control.

I know about iTunes as well, but .99 per song is way too high. I wouldn't even consider buying online music unless the price was more like .25 per song (maximum $5 per CD)

A word about copyrights and the DMCA. Copyrights are now good for 95 yrs I think. Actually, in reality copyrights are good forever now with the DMCA in place. If its illegal to circumvent copy protection (under the DMCA) the copyright holder keeps the keys to that content. Nothing says they have to make the keys public after 95 yrs.

I think this can be summed up like this & it's not limited to media companies.

Computers, (and to a lesser extent) vcr's, double cassette decks, tivo, MP3 players, and some other things I'm prolly missing have given consumers freedom.

Corporations, ologopolies, govt, and cartels view the computers, tivos, etc as a means of control. However, they have not figured out an effective method of control yet. Rest assured they are working on it with their favorite congress critters & will get back to us when its ready.

This fight is far from over.

[roscowgo]

Wasn't there a big hooplah about recordable cassetes when they came out?

There are something like 6 billion people on the planet, a few more hop online every second. Good luck in policing that.

I never went out and said...ok gonna download all the songs that start with A today and then distribute them to my friends! When all the silliness started i deleted every one of em i had, even the ones i had bought and ripped from my personal collection, turned on my radio and havent walked into a record store since. Nor will I. 17$ for one song? That I wasnt that fond of to begin with? No thanks. No thanks to the .99c itunes deal also.

There was a company that interested me for a bit but i've forgotten the name of, was russian, and you paid by amount of data you downloaded from them, not per song. and was a reasonable 5c per megabyte. In formats from .wav to .ogg.

[BigChickenStrips]

my oppinion i$ that the indu$try people are $oooo far out of touch with the con$umer i am amazed they $urvuve a$ an indu$try.

people want cheap music in a portable format.

that$ all.

i'd pay for music if i didnt feel like it wa$ paying out the a$$ $o $ome jackoff could be on MTV Crib$ $howing off all 3 of hi$ lamborghini$ and hi$ 300,000 $quare foot hou$e that he only live$ in 3 month$ a year.

arti$t $hould be paid for what they do ju$t like any other job, but what they are currently paid i$ in$ane. ($ame with movie$ co$ting $9+ a ticket becau$e Tom Crui$e wouldnt be in it for le$$ than $45,000,000. "fudge" him, and the hor$e he rode in on)

[zarakand]

Wait till we start going to HD broadcasting singals for everything in the next five years. One of the hidden aspects of it is that they can preven people from recording on to VHS or DVD from television, thereby forcing you to subscribe to their monthly DVR service. Hmm, what ever happened to the electronic freedoms we took for granted?

[CNF2002]

Agreed...lots of movies I've seen have no-name actors, and they are fantastic. Hollywood knows that if it gets big name actors into the movie, they will make money no matter what. A really good movie, that puts effort into production and writing, doesn't need a famous actor to make millions.

And yes those MTV crib people have way too much stuff, but I guarantee even with their millions of dollars, with their spending habits most of that stuff (especially the houses) are financed with a bank and as soon as their career hits rock bottom it will all be defaulted. The yearly taxes on one of their homes is probably what my house cost total.