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Lion_Lady · #41 Post by **Lion_Lady** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:25 pm

Shouldn't be a surprise...

If you start the MSF riding test with your face shield up or no eye protection, you automatically FAIL. It seems that LEOs are simply buckling down on the law.

Pam

ScooterCop · #42 Post by **ScooterCop** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:23 pm

Show up in court, it'll be on 125 bet Lex and 3rd. Tell the truth, plead not guilty. Let the cop give his side. After the cop gives his side, the judge will ask you to give your side. In all likelyhood, the judge, if she doesn't dismiss the case and finds you guilty, will reduce the fine. This is done before looking at your license, so you don't have to worry about previous tickets.

#43 Post by **MrGompers** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:22 pm

RedBull,

The ticket you received was just a money grab. Go to court fight the ticket. Also, bring your helmet to demonstrate what it looks like when the shield is slightly cracked open. You are going to say the shield was slightly open right ?

Better yet if you wear glasses bring that up too.

Bx RedBull · #44 Post by **Bx RedBull** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:53 pm

MrGompers wrote:RedBull,

The ticket you received was just a money grab. Go to court fight the ticket. Also, bring your helmet to demonstrate what it looks like when the shield is slightly cracked open. You are going to say the shield was slightly open right ?

Defintely bringing my helmet to court Gromps. Tinted visor and all, and will gladly give a full demonstration with helmet on to show what it looks like having my visor cracked open. Maybe they can throw peanuts at me and try to get one inside my helmet.

#45 Post by **MrGompers** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:04 pm

Mag7C · #46 Post by **Mag7C** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:41 pm

Bx RedBull wrote:
Mag7C wrote:It's ridiculous there are laws like that and still nothing against people driving with cellphones or driving while eating.
Is there somewhere the average person even find all these laws listed?
Here in New York, we do have a cell phone law. Can only talk on the phone while driving if using a handsfree device or earpiece. I've got my $90 ticket with complimentary 2pts on my license to prove it. And get this. The ticket itself was $40, but there's a $50 surcharge.

There is a helpful site that lists each state's motorcycle laws provided by rider friendly AMA. http://www.amadirectlink.com/legisltn/laws.asp

Well that's good at least NY has it. We need it in OR. I've almost been run over twice by the cellphoners.

Thanks for the link.

Bx RedBull · #47 Post by **Bx RedBull** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:11 am

Lion_Lady wrote:Shouldn't be a surprise...

If you start the MSF riding test with your face shield up or no eye protection, you automatically FAIL. It seems that LEOs are simply buckling down on the law.

Pam

I'm sure that it is a safety guideline according to the MSF rule books but I know, at least in my course, this was not enforced at all. About half the class bought their own helmets which most had visors on them. The other half used the ones issued by the instructors. On 3 consecutive 90 degree days in August, it was very uncomfortable sitting on a 200 degree engine while baking in the sun. Therefore, most everyone in the class, myself included did everything short of removing the helmet during instruction, which included riding with our visors up. This not only made things a bit cooler, but also enabled us to easily communicate with the intructors.

I passed with only 2 lost points. :motorcycle:

P.S. I took the course in Connecticut, where there is no helmet law. Obviously the MSF course requires a helmet at all times, but I wonder if the location had anything to do with the leniency of the intructors.

Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:25 am

Bx RedBull wrote:
P.S. I took the course in Connecticut, where there is no helmet law. Obviously the MSF course requires a helmet at all times, but I wonder if the location had anything to do with the leniency of the intructors.

Florida also has a no helmet law, and they did enforce it. Luckily it was February and it wasen't that August heat !

Bx RedBull · #49 Post by **Bx RedBull** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:26 am

Mag7C wrote:
Well that's good at least NY has it. We need it in OR. I've almost been run over twice by the cellphoners.

Thanks for the link.

I agree cell phone laws need to be enforced, just not upon me.

The new hazard with cell phones is not just people not paying attention because their engaged in conversation, but impatient people (teens especially) who can't wait until their stopped to reply to their friend's text. I've driven/rode past cars that I swore had a little 90-year old woman behind the wheel, and am shocked when I finally pull out and past them and see a 18-year old cutie with her head down as she feverishly tries to input the correct letters completely oblivious to the sudden actions of the traffic in front of her.

Gr8. C U 2Nite. BRB, my BF txtng. TTYL
{new text} Hi! U'r house L8tr K. RUOK? O Gr8, cops. WTF! $9d tik

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