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#71 Post by -Holiday » Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:26 am

Sevulturus wrote: If it bothers you so much, why do you still read the threads?
How would you know if it bothers you unless you read it?

Its like reading a thread by Verm, you know its going to be stupid, and probably enrage you on some level, but you just have to click to see whats going on........LONG LIVE THE INTARWEB!
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#72 Post by Sev » Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:32 am

-Holiday wrote:
Sevulturus wrote: If it bothers you so much, why do you still read the threads?
How would you know if it bothers you unless you read it?

Its like reading a thread by Verm, you know its going to be stupid, and probably enrage you on some level, but you just have to click to see whats going on........LONG LIVE THE INTARWEB!
Because he's smart enough to realise that if a thread comes up about helmets, something like that is going to be said sooner rather then later on this forum. Yet he still reads the posts, and picks out the one that complains about helmets, and complains about it.
Of course I'm generalizing from a single example here, but everyone does that. At least I do.

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#73 Post by -Holiday » Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:35 am

Sevulturus wrote:
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Sevulturus wrote: If it bothers you so much, why do you still read the threads?
How would you know if it bothers you unless you read it?

Its like reading a thread by Verm, you know its going to be stupid, and probably enrage you on some level, but you just have to click to see whats going on........LONG LIVE THE INTARWEB!
Because he's smart enough to realise that if a thread comes up about helmets, something like that is going to be said sooner rather then later on this forum. Yet he still reads the posts, and picks out the one that complains about helmets, and complains about it.
sounds reasonable to me if he has a strong opinion about it. I'm sure you can identify with people having strong opinions...
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#74 Post by ZooTech » Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:01 am

Sevulturus wrote:Because he's smart enough to realise that if a thread comes up about helmets, something like that is going to be said sooner rather then later on this forum. Yet he still reads the posts, and picks out the one that complains about helmets, and complains about it.
And Harley owners venture into threads about Harleys, and 599 owners answer questions about 599's, and the ladies read threads in the Ladies Lounge. Because quite a few people here have strong opinions about people who don't wear helmets I should, therefore, avoid threads about helmets? Hell, I even spoke out against the guy's inappropriate comment. It'd be one thing if I agreed and said helmets were g*y. Instead I was consistent in my belief that it's nobody's business what someone else wears, unlike a few here who appear to be fine calling me an idiot but won't stand for being called anything in return. Being so adamantly vocal against helmetless riders can only stem from one of two things - either from a "Big Brother" mentality (which I've seen plenty of 'round here) or from jealousy (of the ability to let loose once in a while). Exactly which applies to whom isn't my place to say, but I can see no other motivation for starting up a thread-of-the-week about the doofus-of-the-week riding around without all the proper gear.

Furthermore, I did not author this thread nor am I solely responsible for its current 8-page length. Apparently this remains a hot topic and, if you don't care to participate in it, I suggest you click "Back" on your browser.
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#75 Post by Sev » Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:09 am

/me presses back.
Of course I'm generalizing from a single example here, but everyone does that. At least I do.

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#76 Post by biker_rach » Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:19 am

Gummiente wrote:
black mariah wrote:
ZooTech wrote: The same kind of person who calls a complete stranger a "squid" for not wearing a helmet.
Nice try, but wrong. You fail to take IQ into account here.
Oh, this is gonna be good!
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Oh, you called it! hahaha this 'place' is so entertaining! I'm going to start coming here even more often.
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#77 Post by Mintbread » Thu Jul 06, 2006 7:30 pm

Would anyone here that rides sans helmet consider jumping out of a plane without a reserve chute?
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#78 Post by MajorGator » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:46 am

I have a generally Libertarian bent in regards to mandatory helmet laws. If you wish not to wear one, it should be honored (where legal). That said, one who receives a head injury due to not wearing a helmet affects more than just him/herself.

Our tax dollars supplement our insurance for providing healthcare benefits. As such, we all contribute to everyone's recovery efforts. It is arguable that mandating helmet laws would contribute to the decrease to ever rising premiums and government subsidies (particulary young riders like the guy profiled in the initial post).

Perhaps the solution would be that when you are admitted into the hospital, you (or more likely your next of kin) sign a waiver refusing to take taxpayer funds for your surgery, hospitalization and extensive therapy. This could be an equitable solution.
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#79 Post by dieziege » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:56 am

Technically, dying young of massive head injuries is a net gain to the health care system.

The final third of a "standard" (sixty-some+ year) life contains the vast majority of medical expenses, so every under-40 that dies quickly is like a long term investment... may not matter right now, but in 30 years you'll see a real pay-off.

Beyond that, young organs are always needed to preserve the lives of older people... the organs and tissues harvested from a 20-something not only prolong the lives of many older people, but also enrich the doctors, brokers, hospitals, and other health care service providers who facilitate the transplantations.

It may... may... not be a net gain to society... but let's be honest... if you are too stupid to wear a helmet/seatbelt/whatever when it is obviously to your personal benefit then maybe you wouldn't have been all that productive a member of society anyway. Doesn't much matter though... because individuals do not exist for the good of society... society exists for the good of individuals. The second we forget that and start saying "people can't do that because we need their labor over the next 20 years and this will reduce their output" we are nothing more than slaves.
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