I dropped it.

[Sev]

Glad to hear you and the bike are okay. Head back there and spank that corner's "O Ring".

Verm, I think you need to leave the fantasy behind.

[macktruckturner]

what Sev said.

[KarateChick]

Glad you're alright and ready to head out again. Bike doesn't look too too bad either

[VermilionX]

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Verm, I think you need to leave the fantasy behind.

oh well, i don't care... leaning off works for me and it saves me lean angle so i'll keep on doing it. plus, it's feels great moving side to side on the bike while in the twisities.

[Nibblet99]

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Verm, I think you need to leave the fantasy behind.

oh well, i don't care... leaning off works for me and it saves me lean angle so i'll keep on doing it. plus, it's feels great moving side to side on the bike while in the twisities.

I think you want to learn how a bike works again Verm....

Leaning in does not save you lean angle on the bike... you lean a bike at 30 degrees, it'll corner the same radius whether you lean in, out, or do nothing. Leaning, racers, use to stabilise the bike through the turn at the speed they want. Faster speeds = lean in, slower speeds = lean out (do note though, that altering the speed will change the radius of the turn)

Please, seriously build a lot of experience, before you start telling people to change their riding habits drastically. Motorcycling is inherently full of risks, when I give someone advice, it is (usually) a way of minimising those risks.

Also please remember that people will sea, what they want to see in anything they read. Its rare to find someone you takes an entire piece of advice, rather than just the bits they wanted to see. In general people look for reasons to back up their opinion, not to prove it wrong.

I guess what I'm trying to say, is be careful with your advice, make sure the meaning is clear, AND correct... If its taken wrongly, people can get hurt


***EDIT***
In my not so humble opinion... Forget about practicing hanging off the bike, and spend that extra saved braincell time for reading the corner better, and picking a smoother line which also allows room for error.

You will find you corner much smoother, quicker, AND safer than you will get by hanging off your bike. Save that for when you're trying to get that last 5-10% of speed through a turn. (Which is something you should never be looking to do on a public road, only the track)

[VermilionX]

i read about hanging off in sport riding techniques. it works for me like it was described it the book.



m1a1dvr,

pick up a copy of sport riding techniques by nick ienatsch. you like sport riding so it will benefit you a lot.

[macktruckturner]

Or, pick up Twist of the Wrist II, which is IMNSHO a better choice for learning the real story behind sport riding. Verm, if you really understood cornering and "hanging off" - you wouldn't be so driven to finally "drag knee".

[VermilionX]

Or, pick up Twist of the Wrist II, which is IMNSHO a better choice for learning the real story behind sport riding. Verm, if you really understood cornering and "hanging off" - you wouldn't be so driven to finally "drag knee".

im not driven to drag knee on the streets.

i would like to do it on a parking lot or the race track.

[CNF2002]

I saw a guy leaning into his turn. It did more to unbalance him and he appeared to be fighting the bike in the turn rather than smoothly letting the bike ride through it. Plus he looked kinda silly because the bike was only leaned 5 degrees or so

[macktruckturner]

Or, pick up Twist of the Wrist II, which is IMNSHO a better choice for learning the real story behind sport riding. Verm, if you really understood cornering and "hanging off" - you wouldn't be so driven to finally "drag knee".

im not driven to drag knee on the streets.

i would like to do it on a parking lot or the race track.

still isn't a requirment on either, even at speed.