As more bikes have started to join me on the road the last couple weeks (not many were out in Feb and Mar ) I've been noticing quite a few Hayabusa's out there. And I have yet to see one person riding one that was wearing a helmet. Every single one of them has ridden without one.
Sounds like a real smart idea. Climb on the seat of one of the most powerful production bikes and wear absolutely no protection. I live in a college town, so most riders I see really have no gear, but you would think at least one would be smart enough.
i used to ride with no helmet. if you plan to be riding and not doing anything stupid i dont see a problem with it. just because someone is on a busa doesnt mean they plan to ride 200mph on it. where i live its full of college kids on crotch rockets no protection, and also tons of old guys on cruisers with no thing either. as long as you ride safe its not a big deal.
i think its stupid to go out and do wheelies and such with no helmet or weaving in traffic, general being reckless with no helmet is a stupid idea. but if you ride safe on a crotch rocket with no helmet i wouldnt be so quick to judge them.
almost unnerving however that so many people buy these bikes. i was talking to someone that was going to get one as a first street bike, his reasoning was a decent fast car cost 40,000$++ while the busa can be had for way less than half that and out performe the car to no end. more bang for the buck with total disregard for anything else.
Itzamna wrote:As more bikes have started to join me on the road the last couple weeks (not many were out in Feb and Mar ) I've been noticing quite a few Hayabusa's out there. And I have yet to see one person riding one that was wearing a helmet. Every single one of them has ridden without one.
Sounds like a real smart idea. Climb on the seat of one of the most powerful production bikes and wear absolutely no protection. I live in a college town, so most riders I see really have no gear, but you would think at least one would be smart enough.
I dont know about your reasoning that if you ride safe, its no big deal. Its like saying a seat belt in your car isnt needed if you drive carefully. Even if you are driving carefully, whats to stop the other people on the road from NOT driving that way. Helmet can save your noodle. period.
its all realative to the rider. most people that drive cars consider motorcycles death machines and fell the same way despite wearing gear or not.
hospitals now are refusing to treat motorcycle victims despite wearing gear or not.
insurance companys dont make you pay a higher rate for not wearing gear.
just because in your opinion riding without full gear is stupid, doesnt make it true. each person has to weigh the risks of their own safety. just being out there on 2 wheels is risk enough. helmets can save your life yes, but it doesnt mean they always will save you. helmets can even cause more injury than if you werent wearing one.
iwannadie wrote:
just because in your opinion riding without full gear is stupid, doesnt make it true. each person has to weigh the risks of their own safety. just being out there on 2 wheels is risk enough. helmets can save your life yes, but it doesnt mean they always will save you. helmets can even cause more injury than if you werent wearing one.
Bullcr@p. Complete and Total. Is this where "iwannadie" comes from????
iwannadie wrote: helmets can even cause more injury than if you werent wearing one.
Well, not even real . Real at least has the redeeming quality of being good fertilizer.
Anyway, you've seen those little brain buckets... you know, the lids that look like a Tupperware bowl painted black... well, they seem to be getting more popular here. And not just with the cruiser folk. Sunday afternoon, I saw a young guy on a sportbike wearing one. He was also wearing shorts, sneakers and no shirt. Funny thing was, he was wearing a nice pair of Olympia gloves.
The logic escapes me.
Let me get this straight... it's one down and four up, right?
you guys can argue your opinion all you want, if you google a little bit youll find alot of stats that show riders with/without helmets are equal in fatality stats. just because you have a helmet on doesnt mean it will save your life in an accident. if your so hard up on safety how many of you wear full race ready leathers every time you get on the bike, how many bought a cheaper helmet just because they couldnt afford the top of the line. who has ever been over the speed limit, changed lanes without signaling. all these lead to risks its up to you were you draw a line of what you feel is safe and not safe. wearing a helmet while you speed on the freeway doesnt make you a sensable rider.
seatbelts and airbags in cars are proven to cause injurys as well. by no means in all accident cases are they best to have, your betting on the majority is all and hoping for the best when using any type of safety device.
wearing a full face helmet has risks. if its not a proper fit it can block your field of view causing an accident. if its to big it will spin around on your head causing injury/accidents. if its to tight on impact it will try and twist and rip your head to pieces inside the helmet. if you go down and slide on the ground there chances of your helmet getting caught on something and off goes your head. also if you wreck and you land traped unable to move and in a way causing preasure on the helmet strap to strangle you. a few inchs of foam on impact still doesnt save your brain from the hard impact which can cause brain damage just as easy with no helmet.
i was in a very serious near fatal accident with no helmet. i had immense trama to my intire body, except my head(jokes aside). i shattered my hip and had majour internal bleeding. a helmet would have done no thing for me at all.
but again its all opinions wear the level of safety you choose, but dont think that helmet is the end all life saver you have come to think it is.
I pull up at the bike shop and I parked three or four parking spots down from a black Busa with all the chrome you could add. I went in the shop and when I came back out the owner was there. He looked to be about 50 years old, about 250 to 300 lbs. and not all that tall. Short brushcut hair. Anyway, he just bought a bunch of stick-on chrome in the store and was applying it. I asked him if his chrome rims were stock, and he said they weren't - that he added them and has had the bike for about 2 months. He said the rims were very expensive. He then jumped onto his "fastest production motorcycle" with no lid, no gear, just blue jeans and a polo shirt. This guy reminded me of a whole lot of the Harley riders in this area, only he was on a Busa. I see a lot of guys on Harley dressed similar though. Older riders just joining the fold seems to be a large factor in this issue. There are far fewer riders IRL who are as concerned about safety as we are here on this board. I think I'd be glad to ride with 95% of my brothers on this board. I met a lot of folks informally on the road and a common theme is risk, and it is why some people ride. I can't imagine riding anywhere without my helmet myself.
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iwannadie wrote: a few inchs of foam on impact still doesnt save your brain from the hard impact which can cause brain damage just as easy with no helmet.
i was in a very serious near fatal accident with no helmet. i had immense trama to my intire body, except my head(jokes aside). i shattered my hip and had majour internal bleeding. a helmet would have done no thing for me at all.
but again its all opinions wear the level of safety you choose, but dont think that helmet is the end all life saver you have come to think it is.
Sure, trauma to the body can be fatal, too. That's not the point. If I understood you correctly, you've taken the position that wearing a helmet has little or no effect in preventing or mitigating head trauma, and in doing so you are ignoring all manner of scientific data, never mind common sense. Opinions don't really enter into this argument. Surely you realize your position is absolutely void of any valid support and will only meet opposition from me or any other reasonable individual.
You may have the right to choose to ride helmetless, but you will do so against the advice of those who have avoided potential fatalities by wearing a helmet, myself included.
Let me get this straight... it's one down and four up, right?
) I've been noticing quite a few Hayabusa's out there. And I have yet to see one person riding one that was wearing a helmet. Every single one of them has ridden without one. 
Well, not even real 
