Is it worth it?

[VermilionX]

why is buying a used racebike bad?

plus, most racers take care of their machine since they want it to run great at the race. i know people who change oil every race, just for one example.


sportbikes are made to be rev'ed high anyway. i don't mean staying in the red-line but hitting the redline when before shifting and riding constantly above 10k rpms is normal.

[CNF2002]

No bike would suffer the abuse on the road that a regular race-bike would. A race bike is pushed to its limits as often as possible (unless I'm confused as to what race bikers do). If they pushing their bike so hard that they want to change their oil every time they ride, that tells you something right there. They dont expect their engine to last 30k without a complete rebuild, I bet.

[VermilionX]

i wouldn't call it abuse.

that's just the way RR sportbikes are made to be ridden.

an example of abuse is staying in rev limiter. it's fine to hit it but good to stay on it.

[fireguzzi]

well you cannot really get the frame straightened.

You can but it is expensive.

http://www.gmdcomputrack.com/

My MC class got to take a tour of the location in Atlanta, it was very cool how they do it. They set up a lot of brand new bikes for racers before they ever even ride them. Their tolerances are a lot more strict then factory tolerances.

Just as a side note the guy (Kent) giving us the tour was also on two wheeled tuesday before they got canned.

[jonnythan]

i wouldn't call it abuse.

that's just the way RR sportbikes are made to be ridden.

an example of abuse is staying in rev limiter. it's fine to hit it but good to stay on it.

And race bikes aren't meant to be pushed to 50,000 miles, either.

Using an engine as hard as is done in a race scenario decreases the life of the engine significantly as compared to the same engine used on the road.

A race bike should be bought with the expectation that it will not last as long as a bike that has not been a race bike.

[VermilionX]

And race bikes aren't meant to be pushed to 50,000 miles, either.

Using an engine as hard as is done in a race scenario decreases the life of the engine significantly as compared to the same engine used on the road.

A race bike should be bought with the expectation that it will not last as long as a bike that has not been a race bike.

i know.

my point is... it's not abuse. it's just the nature of RR bikes.

if you want a long lasting commuter bike, get something else or buy a new one and baby it.


but i must admit i won't buy a racebike that is pro-level. those bike's engine needs to be rebuilt after each race. they tune it for optimal performance so way more egine wear, but since they rebuild it after each race. mileage isn't a big deal to them.

[Sev]

well you cannot really get the frame straightened.

You can but it is expensive.

http://www.gmdcomputrack.com/

My MC class got to take a tour of the location in Atlanta, it was very cool how they do it. They set up a lot of brand new bikes for racers before they ever even ride them. Their tolerances are a lot more strict then factory tolerances.

Just as a side note the guy (Kent) giving us the tour was also on two wheeled tuesday before they got canned.

That's why I said, "cannot really," as opposed to "cannot at all." I realise that it's a subtle difference, but when you bend metal you weaken it, when you bend it back that weakness is increased. How many times can you bend a coat hanger before it snaps? How many times do you want to bend your frame?


And Verm, how many race bikes have been down once? Is the one that he's buying dumped? What kind of damage did going down do? Race bikes are CAPABLE of being ridden the way they are. This does not mean that it is good for them. The faster the engine is revved the faster it'll wear out.


Not to mention the mods that are used to make a typical race bike, freer exhaust, bigger airbox, bore it out. All of this adds stress to the entire system. You (I'm talking about you spefically Verm) did not want to buy a used street bike, which should have been ridden in a reasonable manner. A race bike is run much harder.

Though I will concede that they are designed to be run in a race setting, this can and WILL reduce the bikes effective life.

[VermilionX]

And Verm, how many race bikes have been down once? Is the one that he's buying dumped? What kind of damage did going down do? Race bikes are CAPABLE of being ridden the way they are. This does not mean that it is good for them. The faster the engine is revved the faster it'll wear out.


Not to mention the mods that are used to make a typical race bike, freer exhaust, bigger airbox, bore it out. All of this adds stress to the entire system. You (I'm talking about you spefically Verm) did not want to buy a used street bike, which should have been ridden in a reasonable manner. A race bike is run much harder.

Though I will concede that they are designed to be run in a race setting, this can and WILL reduce the bikes effective life.

i know.

like i said, i wouldn't buy a pro-level racebike. their engines are tuned for optimal performance and not concerned about mileage since they rebuild it after each race anyway. so unless i can afford rebuilding it a lot. i woudn't buy one.

but again, my point is, it's not abuse.

that's just the way they're meant to be used.

i don't think the bike in question is pro-level setup.

but still, i wouldn't pay $4k for an F4i.

[Sev]

The harder you use something, the faster it wears out.

[flynrider]

Bingo, Sev!

Verm, the point that folks were trying to get across is that a former race bike will be worn out long before an equivalent street-only bike will. The bike may have been "made" to produce a lot of power at high rpm, but I guarantee you that if the bike spends a lot of time doing that, it will wear out at a proportionally accelerated rate.