Im going to H e LL

[Andrew]

Those things don't do any permanant damage do they? They got off ligtly with a little discomfort.

My parents would probably have asked to borrow the taser if they had found me skipping school.

[CNF2002]

Those things don't do any permanant damage do they? They got off ligtly with a little discomfort.

My parents would probably have asked to borrow the taser if they had found me skipping school.

What weapons of pain would come out if they saw you chilling by the pool with a bottle of vodka and a marlboro?

That kids got to be kidding if she thinks anyone is going to have sympathy for her (except maybe mommy and their lawyer).

[t_bonee]

I can see the 12 year old, but hitting a 6 year old a tazer is a bit extreme. If cops can't handle a 6 year old with a piece of glass without tazing him, then there is a sorry-a$$ police force in Miami.

[Nalian]

I guess I'm in the minority then, but I'm fine with that. I don't think the kid in the UCLA incident deserved to be tazered, and I think that the police officers in Miami could have handled the situation differently/better.

People seem to be under the impression that tazering is just a bit of discomfort but its a lot more than that. There have been cases of perfectly healthy people with no heart conditions going into cardiac arrest after being tazed. Police officers who carry tazers are forced to go through the effects of being tazed before they're allowed to carry them often (same with pepper spray) - and there are cops in a number of states who have filed lawsuits against the tazer company Taser International claiming serious injury during training sessions with them.

Miami cops seem to be tazer happy - there was a case a bit ago where an officer lost his job there because he tazed a girl who was pulled over for a traffic violation because she didn't move quickly enough. She wasn't being violent or abusive, she was asking questions so he just zapped her. I'm all for cops having less-lethal options, but just because it is less-lethal does not mean it should be your first reaction before trying to talk people out of things, or in the case of the CNN article, zapping a freaking 12 year old because she was running away. If the cop is so out of shape he can't catch the 12 year old, then he deserves to lose the kid.

A 6 year old with a piece of glass (other big story that made the news recently regarding tazers) who was threatening to cut himself vs 3 officers, and they insist their only option is a tazer? Give me a break.

That being said - I'm also for parents disciplining their kids. I see no problems with kids getting spanked, etc, as long as it isn't taken over the line to abuse.

[NorthernPete]

mmm..tazer video... (IS there video of Tazzer on youtube? of course there is...tazer in the search gives us....483 results...)

Heres my favorite...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmoz3zF4T8w


do as your told....

zap.

[Nalian]

See, the jerk in me thinks it is kinda funny, and the woman definitely should have done what she was told. I certainly don't feel sorry for her - but that being said:

They already had a hand on her and she was stuck in a corner. She didn't have a weapon. If they had stepped back its not like she even then would have had room to get away. So why go the tazer route?

[CNF2002]

See, the jerk in me thinks it is kinda funny, and the woman definitely should have done what she was told. I certainly don't feel sorry for her - but that being said:

They already had a hand on her and she was stuck in a corner. She didn't have a weapon. If they had stepped back its not like she even then would have had room to get away. So why go the tazer route?

Because she wasn't moving. She got out of the car, barely, and they asked her 3 times to put her hands behind her back. She refused to comply. The only other option they had would have been to use physical force on her, grab her from the vehicle, and throw her to the ground and pull her arms behind to cuff her. I think she would have alot more injuries from that kind of action than the tazer, which put her down immediately.

People just need to understand that you need to obey all police instructions quietly and immediately.

...then again. It seems like situations like these could be solved with some negotiation. It would have been more prudent to back off and continue talking calmly to her, since the arresting officer could have easily been attacked with a hidden weapon seeing as how close she was.

The jerk in me thinks that by looking at her even if she had taken off running she wouldn't be very fast.

[Shorts]

People just need to understand that you need to obey all police instructions quietly and immediately.

Exactly. This isn't a sit and chat session. This isn't an argument. This isn't blabber on. It is do what you're told immediately. Not complying with LEO instructions is a form of resistance.

Cops are "on" until you are secured in cuffs (if that's where the infraction is going). Cops are "on" until the situation is done. I don't think some people understand that.


Someone mentioned 'the belt'. Oh heck ya! Mom had a paddle, she used it on us all the time. She was like the low level punisher lol But if dad got up, and undid the belt, you were going to get it - no more fun time paddling from mom. Dad was 'finishing it'


The way some people yell and carry on I'd taser them just so they shut up.

[jonnythan]

People just need to understand that you need to obey all police instructions quietly and immediately.

Exactly. This isn't a sit and chat session. This isn't an argument. This isn't blabber on. It is do what you're told immediately. Not complying with LEO instructions is a form of resistance.

Cops are "on" until you are secured in cuffs (if that's where the infraction is going). Cops are "on" until the situation is done. I don't think some people understand that.

No kidding. Do people think yelling and bitching and complaining to a uniformed officer is going to make them just change their minds and give up?

People are dumb.

Cop wants to put the cuffs on you, he will. He will gladly hurt you in the process if you make him want to. The proper thing to do is shut your mouth, go with them, and find a lawyer to do the talking for you.

If there's one thing I've learned from Law&Order, it's that the cops have the arrest as their top priority and the prosecutors have the case as their top priority. No one has you as their priority except you and your attorney. Your attorney is going to be much smarter than you, so you let him decide what the cops and DA needs to hear

[Mintbread]

Heres my favorite...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmoz3zF4T8w

Haha, I love tazers.

http://www.filecabi.net/video/tazrbk6.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU-oW8KvcvU