can you use bias ply tire on a sport bike

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can you use bias ply tire on a sport bike

#1 Unread post by elord89 »

can i put a bias-ply tire on a sport bike looking for tire for my bike
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#2 Unread post by BuzZz »

Can you? As long as the size is correct for your rim, sure you can. Will it work properly(what you really mean, I think)..... well, that depends. What year and model bike are we talking about, anyways? That might be a factor. But as a general rule (and there are some exceptions to this), you don't want to mix radial and bias-ply on the same bike.

If your changing both tires at the same time, and can find 2 correct size tires that will fit your rims (bead design can mean that some tires won't seat properly on the wrong type rim) you might be able to run bias-ply on your bike. But radials are generally a better performing tire, especially if the bike was designed for them in the first place.
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Re: can you use bias ply tire on a sport bike

#3 Unread post by shane-o »

elord89 wrote:can i put a bias-ply tire on a sport bike looking for tire for my bike

assuming you have got your self an old retro sporty, I cant see why not

but

If ya thinking about fitting cross plys to a late model sporty, then, WHY WOULD YA ????? they handle like dodo, but look kool :)
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#4 Unread post by gsJack »

Front or back tire? What bike, what tires on it now? If you are referring to a late model sportbike, I doubt if you can even find a bias tire to fit the 180/190 rear. Older sportbikes actually came with bias tires.

Generally a radial front with a bias rear is a big no, actually illegal in UK and other places. A bias front with a radial rear can be OK and is the current recommended fitment for the new Bonnies by Metzeler.

My current favorite tires are a bias Lasertec front with a radial Road Attacx rear.
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its the radial tire on a crotch rocket that makes the bike handle better than any other bike! I wish someone made radial tires for my size, I would be the first one to buy them. Could somebody find me a set of radials in rear size 170-80-15, front 130-90-16?
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MotoF150 wrote:its the radial tire on a crotch rocket that makes the bike handle better than any other bike! I wish someone made radial tires for my size, I would be the first one to buy them. Could somebody find me a set of radials in rear size 170-80-15, front 130-90-16?
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MotoF150 wrote:I don't work in a factory, I have a top level, important state goverment job in public relations where I can get what I want with my good looks and charm.[ I meet with and talk with very important bussiness owners everyday, I meet high class bussiness women that are soo beautiful you guys would melt being anywhere near them, I help them in making a connection between their bussiness and goverment. Thats how I know how a motorcycle business is run and managed.
Ahah...haha....you are quite the modest one.

Edit: Actually, let me make this post worthwhile - what's the difference between radial, biased, non-biased, square, sinewave, triangular...I'm completely lost. I know it has to do with the way the inner layers are run, kind of, but what's the real difference? Is there a difference in handling, or weight, or tolerances? Educate me on this...I'd like to know.
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lunchmeat wrote:
MotoF150 wrote:I don't work in a factory, I have a top level, important state goverment job in public relations where I can get what I want with my good looks and charm.[ I meet with and talk with very important bussiness owners everyday, I meet high class bussiness women that are soo beautiful you guys would melt being anywhere near them, I help them in making a connection between their bussiness and goverment. Thats how I know how a motorcycle business is run and managed.
Ahah...haha....you are quite the modest one.

Edit: Actually, let me make this post worthwhile - what's the difference between radial, biased, non-biased, square, sinewave, triangular...I'm completely lost. I know it has to do with the way the inner layers are run, kind of, but what's the real difference? Is there a difference in handling, or weight, or tolerances? Educate me on this...I'd like to know.
http://www.michelinag.com/agx/en-US/pro ... radial.jsp

That site does a good job of going over the differences. It's also concise and has good diagrams.

I'd venture to say that it's much more important for cars, but the construction will make a difference in cornering where larger loads are being applied to the tire.
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MotoF150 wrote:its the radial tire on a crotch rocket that makes the bike handle better than any other bike! I wish someone made radial tires for my size, I would be the first one to buy them. Could somebody find me a set of radials in rear size 170-80-15, front 130-90-16?
Actually I'm reasonably certain handling has something to do with the following:
Rake
Trail
Swingarm length
Wheelbase
Height
Clearance vertical and leaned over
Tire compound (sticky tires stick better du'h)
Wheel diameter
Wheel width

Of course I could be wrong.

Radial tires from what I understand handle high speeds better then a bias tire or bias-ply.
Of course I'm generalizing from a single example here, but everyone does that. At least I do.

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