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#21 Unread post by Jadien »

KingRobb wrote:
Jadien wrote:NOBODY deserves to die.
and yet everyone gets there.
But they don't deserve it...... (Please don't bring up child-molesters, rapists, and murderers; hopefully you all are adult enough to know what I mean....)
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Jadien wrote:C'mon now folks.....!

Let's have some respect for the dead. Sure he was doing something dumb; stunting on a public road. But, it sounds like he didn't come into contact with anyone, so that's not what caused him to crash.

We can't go around calling people idiots because they passed away doing something they loved to do that is dangerous. Otherwise, when one of us passes away going too hot in a twisty or getting hit by a SUV while touring; we give non-riders the right to call us idiots. I don't believe that would be OK by any of us.

Let's not make fun of a kid who was guilty of being a kid........
I can't believe that you'd make such a comparison. The guy lost control in an intersection going 80 on one wheel! You think that's the same as a rider touring and getting hit by an SUV?! Really???! It's only luck that kept him from hitting someone on the other side of the median.

We can call him an idiot because of his total lack of regard for the safety of others. And why should I have respect for his dead self - he certainly didn't show respect for anyone else that day. Totally selfish behavior, and yes, he got what was destined to happen with that sort of activity. Learn from it or not.
It's easy to be look down upon someone you've never met. But he was a person too.
I thought my post spoke clearly enough. Maybe if I elaborate it might make more sense. I'm saying... I'm not going to have respect for the guy, as "Jadien" suggested because the guy didn't earn any respect. As a matter of fact he blew it in that regard by demonstrating that he didn't give a rat's azz for anybody else but himself. For that he doesn't deserve any respect from me. And I didn't say he was an idiot for dying... I said he was an idiot for stunting at 80 MPH on the public streets.

He was a person too? No kidding - and I'm sure many people are mourning his death because they knew and loved him and will miss him. But he doesn't deserve my respect. And I never said "he got what he deserved" - what I said is that he got what is destined to happen with that sort of activity.

Others here said much worse about the guy than I did... I wasn't so much "looking down" on the guy... I was responding to Jadien's post that I'm not going to look up to the guy or give him my respect. Anything else, Sev?
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#23 Unread post by Sev »

Nope, I'm good :D
Of course I'm generalizing from a single example here, but everyone does that. At least I do.

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NorthernPete wrote:Well, I dont have much sympathy for the guy, he reaped what he'd sewn. you want to be on one wheel, buy a unicycle.
Funnily enough, it's that sentiment that causes so much of the hatred towards bikers. The idea that they brought it on themselves. Sure there's a difference in breaking the law by 10 miles an hour (or do we all ride 55?) and stunting, but the same thought process prevails. It gives us the excuse not to care.
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#25 Unread post by Shorts »

The guy wheelied on the street, lost control and died.

Action --> equal opposite reaction

Input --> output

Everything has a consequence, positive or negative.

I'm willing to say, if he didn't wheelie, he wouldn't be dead :squint:


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Shorts wrote:
Action --> equal opposite reaction

Input --> output

Reap ---> sow

Don't reap before you sow. It's like counting your chickens before they hatch!
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#27 Unread post by KingRobb »

Fast Eddy B wrote:
Shorts wrote:
Action --> equal opposite reaction

Input --> output

Reap ---> sow

Don't reap before you sow. It's like counting your chickens before they hatch!
More like the cart before the horse.

Wheelie still = dead rider
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The549 wrote:
NorthernPete wrote:Well, I dont have much sympathy for the guy, he reaped what he'd sewn. you want to be on one wheel, buy a unicycle.
Funnily enough, it's that sentiment that causes so much of the hatred towards bikers. The idea that they brought it on themselves. Sure there's a difference in breaking the law by 10 miles an hour (or do we all ride 55?) and stunting, but the same thought process prevails. It gives us the excuse not to care.
its not the same thought process. doing 10mph over is not that much more dangerous than doing the speed limit. However doing 55mph over the speed limit is reckless and doing another wreckless thing of being on 1 wheel. Those are the type of people that give bikers a bad name. People exactly like the one who died. I have no sympathy for someone who does 55mph over the speed limit in a town on one wheel and then crash's and dies. The speed limit is there for a reason and its against the law to be reckless like that for a reason. You wanna go fast go find a track. You wanna do stunts go to a closed course somewhere. Then I might feel sorry for you cause you werent endangering someone else's life by being on public roads that everyone uses but instead are doing something you enjoy off the road.

Now yes I do the speed limit when I have a passenger on my bike. Sometimes I even go under the speed limit. When im by myself I do 5-10mph over.

notice thats not 55mph over and keeping 2 wheels on the ground rather than 1.
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Loonette wrote:Totally selfish behavior, and yes, he got what was destined to happen with that sort of activity.
yah know, a lot of ppl say that about us who ride bikes, just for riding.. :(
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#30 Unread post by Shorts »

Fast Eddy B wrote:
Shorts wrote:
Action --> equal opposite reaction

Input --> output

Reap ---> sow

Don't reap before you sow. It's like counting your chickens before they hatch!

D'oh! :laughing:
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