Total Smoking ban in UK

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barmy_carmy · Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:46 am

This government are on about by 2008 there will be a total no smoking ban in all public places. Do you have similar in the US/Canada?
I am a smoker and am against this form of dictatorship. Now if they reach a balance ie. Total non smoking establishments and smoking establishments, That way you have freedom of choice. This government are also starting on overweight people, trying to make you feel bad if you're overweight. Where does it end? What are your views?

oldnslo · #2 Unread post by **oldnslo** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:56 am

Sounds like the Americanization of the UK in progress.

barmy_carmy · Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:33 am

not very democratic then. I thought a Democracy was freedom of choice?

#4 Unread post by **9000white** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:58 am

the supreme court today upheld a law allowing your property to be confiscated if some developer or businessman plans to build something that will produce tax revenue on the land.

oldnslo · #5 Unread post by **oldnslo** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:15 am

The actual word "democracy" is still used in conversation, but the practical application in life is becoming rarer every day, if it even exists at all. So far today, I haven't noticed much of it. One of these days, I'm sure it will be extinct, even with people mentioning its name after its death, as if it was still around.

Buelligan · #6 Unread post by **Buelligan** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:31 am

We have non-smoking in BC, Canada just about everywhere thats public.
I'm an ex-smoker myself, but I have to say I like it. It would be an issue of rights if the smoke didn't go into everyone's lungs, but it does, so all the non-smokers loose their right to breath smoke free air.

old-n-slow · Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:48 am

Yep. It's real nice to go into a public place or business, office or what have you and NOT be forced to breath in the stale stench of secondhand or other smoke. NOW, if you can smoke without poluting the air I have to breath --- go for it. Next we gotta do somthing about old farts that have all that gas heh. heh. And beano don't seem to work.

BuzZz · #8 Unread post by **BuzZz** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:25 pm

I say let economics decide it. If there are 2 resturants side by side, one totally smoking, one totally smoke-free(no sucha thing BTW), let the paying customers decide which one survives. Places like banks, schools, hospitals, ect are not dependant on free market policy to survive, so the government can shove whatever they like down our throats in such cases, I guess.

#9 Unread post by **Sev** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:49 pm

BuzZz wrote:I say let economics decide it. If there are 2 resturants side by side, one totally smoking, one totally smoke-free(no sucha thing BTW), let the paying customers decide which one survives. Places like banks, schools, hospitals, ect are not dependant on free market policy to survive, so the government can shove whatever they like down our throats in such cases, I guess.

June 1st my town went smoke free
July first the capitol (Edmonton) goes totalyl smoke free.

I'm for it, but I don't smoke, so the smokers don't care what I think.

TechTMW · #10 Unread post by **TechTMW** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:59 pm

I smoke (occasionally), and I'm w/ Buzz

Italy went smoke free in Jan of this year. I really like sitting in a restaurant and not having some butthole's smoke wafting across my face as I'm trying to eat a meal. However, I still think private businesses should be allowed to decide for themselves whether or not to allow smoking. It's also pretty spectacularly mentally challenged when the government (who in Italy own the monopoly on tobacco products) disallow you to smoke in a tobacco shop ...