Starting in Gear as Opposed to Setting in Neutral

[Skier]

and how many times have some of you left it in second gear when you left it in gear?

never. what's your point?

I am sure people do and thats what my point is. Start your bike in second gear when you thought you were in first and find out you cant take off very well. I pull my bike into my garage and then back it out hwne I goto leave. putting it in gear would be stupid because then I would have to hold the clutch in to back out unless I went into neutral. Just way to many steps to worry about so I just leave it in neutral to begin with. Its not like its gonna "roll" in my garage. I do agree with leaving it in gear on a hill, however.

How is moving a single step from the shutoff sequence to the startup sequence "way to [sic] many?"

You're grasping at straws. If you find it a huge inconvenience to hold the clutch in for a few seconds in the morning, look into improving hand strength.

My take on leaving it in gear, all the time: since it's habit, you'll always do the right thing in every situation. You won't get embarrassed by forgetting you left your bike in gear on a hill since you very rarely park it in gear.

It may not be often, but you know when you mess it up it will be in front of a crowd and you'll get red-faced.

[ofblong]

and how many times have some of you left it in second gear when you left it in gear?

never. what's your point?

I am sure people do and thats what my point is. Start your bike in second gear when you thought you were in first and find out you cant take off very well. I pull my bike into my garage and then back it out hwne I goto leave. putting it in gear would be stupid because then I would have to hold the clutch in to back out unless I went into neutral. Just way to many steps to worry about so I just leave it in neutral to begin with. Its not like its gonna "roll" in my garage. I do agree with leaving it in gear on a hill, however.

How is moving a single step from the shutoff sequence to the startup sequence "way to [sic] many?"

You're grasping at straws. If you find it a huge inconvenience to hold the clutch in for a few seconds in the morning, look into improving hand strength.

My take on leaving it in gear, all the time: since it's habit, you'll always do the right thing in every situation. You won't get embarrassed by forgetting you left your bike in gear on a hill since you very rarely park it in gear.

It may not be often, but you know when you mess it up it will be in front of a crowd and you'll get red-faced.

has nothing to do with being able to hold it in. Has to do with its more convienent to NOT hold it in when backing up. Why use it if you dont have to.

[jonnythan]

I start in neutral half the time, and first gear the rest of the time.

I don't have a clutch switch.

I've never forgotten to hold the clutch. I hold it in every time I start the bike. 100%, no matter what. I'd feel naked if I tried to hit the start switch without the clutch pulled in.