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DireWolf · #11 Unread post by **DireWolf** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:44 am

When I lift weights I do the same thing....squeeze the life out of the bar as I push/pull.

Wrapping my thumbs over the top, instead of fully gripping the bar helped.....so - years ago- I tried it on my grips on the bike. Took the strain right out of my hands. Can fully control the throttle, Clutch, and front brake with no problem without the thumb squeezing the grips. Try the palm, instead.

RhadamYgg · Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:33 am

DireWolf wrote:When I lift weights I do the same thing....squeeze the life out of the bar as I push/pull.

Wrapping my thumbs over the top, instead of fully gripping the bar helped.....so - years ago- I tried it on my grips on the bike. Took the strain right out of my hands. Can fully control the throttle, Clutch, and front brake with no problem without the thumb squeezing the grips. Try the palm, instead.

I did the same thing in weight training. It feels weird on a bike, though. Maybe I'll try it again.

RhadamYgg

motokid · #13 Unread post by **motokid** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:12 am

RhadamYgg wrote:
DireWolf wrote:When I lift weights I do the same thing....squeeze the life out of the bar as I push/pull.

Wrapping my thumbs over the top, instead of fully gripping the bar helped.....so - years ago- I tried it on my grips on the bike. Took the strain right out of my hands. Can fully control the throttle, Clutch, and front brake with no problem without the thumb squeezing the grips. Try the palm, instead.
I did the same thing in weight training. It feels weird on a bike, though. Maybe I'll try it again.

RhadamYgg

It's a wrong thing to do on the weight bar, and I imagine, it's a wrong thing to do on the bike, either.

K

DireWolf · #14 Unread post by **DireWolf** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:40 am

RhadamYgg[/quote]

It's a wrong thing to do on the weight bar, and I imagine, it's a wrong thing to do on the bike, either.

K[/quote]

Please enlighten me....at least on the weightlifting. (The handlebar grip deal takes practice)..........The thumb shift + proper breathing keeps your bloodpressure down some when you lift weights. I've also heard it helps stressed automobile driver that are squeezing the wheel.

motokid · #15 Unread post by **motokid** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:46 am

DireWolf wrote:RhadamYgg

It's a wrong thing to do on the weight bar, and I imagine, it's a wrong thing to do on the bike, either.

K[/quote]

Please enlighten me....at least on the weightlifting. (The handlebar grip deal takes practice)..........The thumb shift + proper breathing keeps your bloodpressure down some when you lift weights. I've also heard it helps stressed automobile driver that are squeezing the wheel.[/quote]

I'm assuming that we are talking about the same thing - keeping the thumbs on the same side of the bar with other fingers (false grip)? If not, then sorry for misunderstanding.

K

DireWolf · #16 Unread post by **DireWolf** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:28 am

I'm assuming that we are talking about the same thing - keeping the thumbs on the same side of the bar with other fingers (false grip)? If not, then sorry for misunderstanding.

Yes. Please tell my why it's "wrong". Not wanting to start a debate, but I'm interested in what you're thinking.

MrMarbles · Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:23 am

Try to make sure you're relaxed from the shoulders all the way down your arms to your hands. I got bad blisters the first week I rode, but now its much better.

motokid · #18 Unread post by **motokid** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:58 am

DireWolf wrote:I'm assuming that we are talking about the same thing - keeping the thumbs on the same side of the bar with other fingers (false grip)? If not, then sorry for misunderstanding.

Yes. Please tell my why it's "wrong". Not wanting to start a debate, but I'm interested in what you're thinking.

Not a debate at all. In weight lifting that is considered 'wrong' because it provides no control in moment of wobbly, failing push. There are numerous cases of broken ribs reported with that one.

In motorcycle riding, I imagine that your ability to do any kind of emergency maneuver would be seriously compromised. If one need to slam the brakes or change the direction, what's going to prevent one from flying over the handlebars.

Why not ask in the experience biker forum?

K

DireWolf · #19 Unread post by **DireWolf** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:37 am

In weight lifting that is considered 'wrong' because it provides no control in moment of wobbly, failing push. There are numerous cases of broken ribs reported with that one.

I'm 38. Been lifting off and on since....15ish. If I drop something and hurt myself, that's a risk I'm willing to take, if it keeps my forearms from aching like I'm having carpal tunnel symptoms, my BP stays down, & I can isolate the muscles I'm trying to exercise & not expend unnecessary energy by squeezing the living tar out of the bar. So far (knock on wood) I've never unintentionally dropped a weight, except for a fall while squatting.

In motorcycle riding, I imagine that your ability to do any kind of emergency maneuver would be seriously compromised.

Agree with you there.

If one need to slam the brakes or change the direction, what's going to prevent one from flying over the handlebars.

My hands wrapped around the grips....If I'm going over the bars, my thumbs ain't gonna stop that, if my palms can't. If you're going over the bars - depending on the situation- landing will be my concern......not holding on & flipping over.

Why not ask in the experience biker forum?

I didn't ask.....you said it was 'wrong' but didn't expand on that.....so I asked. Thanks for explaining.

Ivan M · #20 Unread post by **Ivan M** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:43 am

It's also referred to as a "suicide grip" by lifters. I don't think it's a good habit to get into. Most people will relax after riding for a while and don't need to change their grip. A standard grip is the best for new riders who might be dropping the clutch or having iffy braking.