To ABS or Not to ABS

[RhadamYgg]

IHS report: http://www.iihs.org/sr/pdfs/sr4309.pdf

MSN article about the report.

Thanks, man I always appreciate the data.

RhadamYgg

[JC Viper]

Prefer the cruiser...everyone sees me, use to have a white helmet and they always thought I was a LEO...hehe. I can park it easier too, I use the backrest for leverage.
Honda is mostly for LDR's.
I am only 5'3" and can control both pretty good, actually on the cruiser I can make her crawl real slow, but not on ST, too top heavy, however the ST is awesome on these twistie mountain roads.
Two completly different bikes.

Hmmm, I do a lot of slow speed riding stuck in traffic. Something to think about anyway, I suppose. Sometimes it is so bad I turned off the bike and just duck walked it on the approach to the GWB.

BTW, can you flat foot the ST1300?

RhadamYgg

That should teach you to use the GWB

I just discovered something I can do on my bike. I can pop it into 1st gear and the bike pulls itself once the brakes are off and clutch engaged. This made slow speed traffic easier to bear, and all this time I kept pulling in the clutch then release and repeat.

Hahaha... Yeah, got no choice about the GWB... I could ride an extra 14 or 20 miles and take the Tappan Zee. But the Tap is much worse to ride across than the GWB.

I'll have to try that - popping it in to first with no clutch. I know that works because I did it accidentally at the MSF course... ahem - mostly because I'm a doofus. But when I did it at the MSF course, I'd have the brake on at the same time and I'd stall out. Jerk, stop, look around embarrassed to see if anyone noticed... Oh yeah, the instructor is standing right next to me...

RhadamYgg

Just don't try it on a busy road until you get a sense of what the bike can do and don't forget to pull in that clutch should you brake or it's stall time.

Wonder why Honda doesn't bring the CB600 F to the states for those of us who want standards with ABS. To the British it's a boring bike that's extremely practical and to us it would probably be plenty entertaining.

[RhadamYgg]

Prefer the cruiser...everyone sees me, use to have a white helmet and they always thought I was a LEO...hehe. I can park it easier too, I use the backrest for leverage.
Honda is mostly for LDR's.
I am only 5'3" and can control both pretty good, actually on the cruiser I can make her crawl real slow, but not on ST, too top heavy, however the ST is awesome on these twistie mountain roads.
Two completly different bikes.

Hmmm, I do a lot of slow speed riding stuck in traffic. Something to think about anyway, I suppose. Sometimes it is so bad I turned off the bike and just duck walked it on the approach to the GWB.

BTW, can you flat foot the ST1300?

RhadamYgg

That should teach you to use the GWB

I just discovered something I can do on my bike. I can pop it into 1st gear and the bike pulls itself once the brakes are off and clutch engaged. This made slow speed traffic easier to bear, and all this time I kept pulling in the clutch then release and repeat.

Hahaha... Yeah, got no choice about the GWB... I could ride an extra 14 or 20 miles and take the Tappan Zee. But the Tap is much worse to ride across than the GWB.

I'll have to try that - popping it in to first with no clutch. I know that works because I did it accidentally at the MSF course... ahem - mostly because I'm a doofus. But when I did it at the MSF course, I'd have the brake on at the same time and I'd stall out. Jerk, stop, look around embarrassed to see if anyone noticed... Oh yeah, the instructor is standing right next to me...

RhadamYgg

Just don't try it on a busy road until you get a sense of what the bike can do and don't forget to pull in that clutch should you brake or it's stall time.

Wonder why Honda doesn't bring the CB600 F to the states for those of us who want standards with ABS. To the British it's a boring bike that's extremely practical and to us it would probably be plenty entertaining.

The CB600F looks a lot like the outgoing 919. If either bike was available in the US with ABS, I'd probably get it.

I'll probably experiment in a parking lot somewhere sometime. But I always say that, but I never actually do it. I really should practice more.

RhadamYgg

[Skier]

Honda brought the CB600F to the States for two model years and it sold like a dog. Look hard and you can still find unsold models in dealer showrooms.

Honda learned their lesson: Americans don't want low displacement naked bikes. We want race replicas or cruisers with boatloads of chrome.

[RhadamYgg]

A lot has changed in our market since 2006 (found one on cycletrader.com in PA).

But then again, I do wonder what the break-down of SV650 vs SV650SF is... I'm not in to nakeds, myself.

Motorcyclists are broken up in to many small diverse groups. I'm part of the safe-commuter enjoy going to work and home. I don't think it is a very big group.

Too bad there aren't effective bolt-on ABS systems for bikes like the 919.

RhadamYgg

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There are a couple of Honda's I would like to see sold in the US.

RhadamYgg, No I cannot stand flat footed with both feet just one if I tilt it slightly , my inseam is only 27". However if I were to purchase a different seat I would be closer to standing flat footed with both. The seats are adjustable on the ST.

[RhadamYgg]

There are a couple of Honda's I would like to see sold in the US.

RhadamYgg, No I cannot stand flat footed with both feet just one if I tilt it slightly , my inseam is only 27". However if I were to purchase a different seat I would be closer to standing flat footed with both. The seats are adjustable on the ST.

My wife is about your height - and she can't even flat foot my Ninja. I guess once you have experience you don't have to flat foot the bike, but I do know that it is comfortable to be able to do so.

RhadamYgg

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Ok RhadamYgg, my hubby and brother are laughing right now...they said they have never seen me be able to touch the ground on any bike except a moped and a mini-bike when I was a kid. They said the reason I can balance a bike street or dirt at a stop without putting feet down is because I cant reach the ground....haha.

Just like your wife, I cannot touch the ground flat footed on a Ninja.
I went looking at bikes the other month, tried a whole bunch and not a whole lot of stock bikes I can stand flat footed, the reason I can stand flat footed on my cruiser is the seat was shaved down and narrowed out a couple of inches, and I run the shocks low.

I'm also looking at purchasing another bike. I am looking at getting a dual sport bike because I want to check out the hills here (and do the pass bagger ) and also go the Hyder Alaska (on my bucket list) and check it out there too. I wish they will make a small version bike with the motor of the bigger bike.