Excellent figure 8

[Tennif Shoe]

You are being negative. Why make comments if talking about practice doesn't interest you?

To me it seems like both new and experienced riders in addition to your evil instructors are trying to prevent others from falling into the same pit you've dug yourself into all over the internet.

Unfolding makes a valid point. Your quest for that basic skill that will save you is your basic error.

Quick--you come around a corner and find a dark patch of pavement in front of you. Looks like diesel or antifreeze...it covers your entire lane from fogline to centerline, there's a truck full of razor blades coming the other way in the oncoming lane! What do you do?

Swerving (which is a skill a figure 8 can help you with) is out of the question. What do you do and how do you practice for it?

i dont know the answer to that but i do know what you will be doing if you make it thru it, pull you seat out of the crack off your butt

[beginner]

Have you ever gone above 30 MPH?

Yes, probably to 40 but one of the rules last summer was 30 mph max on paved roads.

[Tennif Shoe]

Have you ever gone above 30 MPH?

Yes, probably to 40 but one of the rules last summer was 30 mph max on paved roads.

who's rules

[beginner]

Your quest for that basic skill that will save you is your basic error.

Most of the reason I practice is because my pride demands I be skilled. That's only going to come from practice. Once you start making noticable progress practice is addictive. When that kicks in practicing is no burden at all

Have you ever gone above 30 MPH?

Yes, probably to 40 but one of the rules last summer was 30 mph max on paved roads.

who's rules

My rules. Right at the beginning I cobbled together a safety model.
Seek skill
Avoid experience
Make rules
The primary reason for that speed limit is braking skills. I can stop the bike pretty effectively from 30 mph and below. My hazard is deer, not cars. There has been one close encounter with a group of about 10. I did an emergency stop with both brakes and it went by the book.

[Tennif Shoe]

Your quest for that basic skill that will save you is your basic error.

Most of the reason I practice is because my pride demands I be skilled. That's only going to come from practice. Once you start making noticable progress practice is addictive. When that kicks in practicing is no burden at all

Have you ever gone above 30 MPH?

Yes, probably to 40 but one of the rules last summer was 30 mph max on paved roads.

who's rules

My rules. Right at the beginning I cobbled together a safety model.
Seek skill
Avoid experience
Make rules
The primary reason for that speed limit is braking skills. I can stop the bike pretty effectively from 30 mph and below. My hazard is deer, not cars. There has been one close encounter with a group of about 10. I did an emergency stop with both brakes and it went by the book.

i like your rule of avoid experiece. sell your bike and follow that rule no experience. again do you practie parell parking everyday in your car in a parking lot?

[beginner]

i like your rule of avoid experiece. sell your bike and follow that rule no experience. again do you practie parell parking everyday in your car in a parking lot?

What I mean by experience are falls and truely scary close calls. I'm a beginner, I won't be riding in traffic or at high speed pretending I have skill or judgement that isn't there yet.

In the beginning I promised I'd learn to enjoy practice as much as riding around or sell the bike. I've kept to that. I still have the bike.

[Tennif Shoe]

do you practie parell parking everyday in your car in a parking lot?

[CaptCrashIdaho]

Quick--you come around a corner and find a dark patch of pavement in front of you. Looks like diesel or antifreeze...it covers your entire lane from fogline to centerline, there's a truck full of razor blades coming the other way in the oncoming lane! What do you do?

Swerving (which is a skill a figure 8 can help you with) is out of the question. What do you do and how do you practice for it?

[Brackstone]

Quick--you come around a corner and find a dark patch of pavement in front of you. Looks like diesel or antifreeze...it covers your entire lane from fogline to centerline, there's a truck full of razor blades coming the other way in the oncoming lane! What do you do?

Swerving (which is a skill a figure 8 can help you with) is out of the question. What do you do and how do you practice for it?

Take my cigarette that I'm currently smoking throw it on the diesel gasoline igniting the road making the truck of razor blades jack-knife trying to avoid the fire.

As the truck comes sliding towards me on it's side I ride my bike up the mountain of razor blades spilling onto the street and jump over the truck landing safely.

[beginner]

do you practie parell parking everyday in your car in a parking lot?

For what reason? There's no safety issue. Automobile controls need less skill to operate and when all else fails there are effective passive safety features. On a bike little fender bender accidents can be life threatening, not the situation with cars.