He was being flip.This makes no sense. You are saying it's all or nothing??
Shorty helmets, a few questions
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I see the full face montra is alive and well here.
In a head on impact it does not matter which style you wear, not one bit.
For front impacts, full faces are best, for side 3/4 do well. WIth each type there are advantages and disadvantages. Only the rider can decide.
IF you dont know, by all means go with a bucket that covers your entire mellon.
All the squids that die every year wear $800 full face buckets, and they bodies get shreaded because they flip-flops, tanktops, and tennies didnt protect them.
Ive been riding, on the track longer than I have been riding on the street.
The only scars I have on my face are from a full face that scattered when my front tire blew out on turn 4 of SIR road race track. That was in the 80s.
Ive never had one after that, been down a few times after that on the street, have not even hit my half shell on the ground yet. I wear it everyday.
NEW RIDERS should be covered from head to toe. They dont have the situation awareness that the old folk do.
The key to street survival is NOT what bucket you wear, but how you AVOID being taken out. Yes you are going to be hit, you must learn how to control the impact, and do it on your terms.
In a head on impact it does not matter which style you wear, not one bit.
For front impacts, full faces are best, for side 3/4 do well. WIth each type there are advantages and disadvantages. Only the rider can decide.
IF you dont know, by all means go with a bucket that covers your entire mellon.
All the squids that die every year wear $800 full face buckets, and they bodies get shreaded because they flip-flops, tanktops, and tennies didnt protect them.
Ive been riding, on the track longer than I have been riding on the street.
The only scars I have on my face are from a full face that scattered when my front tire blew out on turn 4 of SIR road race track. That was in the 80s.
Ive never had one after that, been down a few times after that on the street, have not even hit my half shell on the ground yet. I wear it everyday.
NEW RIDERS should be covered from head to toe. They dont have the situation awareness that the old folk do.
The key to street survival is NOT what bucket you wear, but how you AVOID being taken out. Yes you are going to be hit, you must learn how to control the impact, and do it on your terms.
I know this is an old topic but I've been reading through and decided to add my own experiences incase anyone is bothered (First post btw 
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I'd just like to add that I'm not an experienced rider at all
Well in England, at least with the people I ride with, its generally accepted that you wear a full face helmet. I've always worn one and always will, even for town riding. You just never know when an accident will happen.
Last saturday I came off about 4 miles from home, in a village near me, and hit a wall head on. Because of the way the crash happened my head hit the wall on the chinbar and visor. I was only doing about 20mph, but had I been wearing a 3/4 or shorty I would probably have had a broken jaw and cheekbone, along with mangled skin.
The same applies to all my other safety gear; If I hadn't been wearing my jacket I'd have badly cut if not broken an arm, and the same applies to my hands if I hadn't been wearing a helmet.
To me not wearing full safety gear just doesn't make sense. Everyone, no matter how experienced, careful, slow etc. can crash at any time. I've personally seen the best biker I know crash. All IMO of course, if you know the risks and accept them then I'm not gonna preach at you (even though I just have
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Safe riding
)I'd just like to add that I'm not an experienced rider at all
Well in England, at least with the people I ride with, its generally accepted that you wear a full face helmet. I've always worn one and always will, even for town riding. You just never know when an accident will happen.
Last saturday I came off about 4 miles from home, in a village near me, and hit a wall head on. Because of the way the crash happened my head hit the wall on the chinbar and visor. I was only doing about 20mph, but had I been wearing a 3/4 or shorty I would probably have had a broken jaw and cheekbone, along with mangled skin.
The same applies to all my other safety gear; If I hadn't been wearing my jacket I'd have badly cut if not broken an arm, and the same applies to my hands if I hadn't been wearing a helmet.
To me not wearing full safety gear just doesn't make sense. Everyone, no matter how experienced, careful, slow etc. can crash at any time. I've personally seen the best biker I know crash. All IMO of course, if you know the risks and accept them then I'm not gonna preach at you (even though I just have
)Safe riding
I'd agree with the above and everyone else...the chin and face are not fully protected so a full face is the way to go.Skier wrote:According to the Hurt Report, about one out of every three motorcycle crashes involve the chin area hitting pavement. That's more than enough incentive for me to protect that area with a fullface lid.
Having been hit in the face with a stone on the highway taught me that! Sometimes things like that have to happen to knock some sense into you...
Hopefully no one here has to experience that
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[quote="Penguin".
Last saturday I came off about 4 miles from home, in a village near me, and hit a wall head on. Because of the way the crash happened my head hit the wall on the chinbar and visor. I was only doing about 20mph, but had I been wearing a 3/4 or shorty I would probably have had a broken jaw and cheekbone, along with mangled skin.
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OMG are you ok? i am glad to hear that you dont have a broken jaw! how is your bike?
Last saturday I came off about 4 miles from home, in a village near me, and hit a wall head on. Because of the way the crash happened my head hit the wall on the chinbar and visor. I was only doing about 20mph, but had I been wearing a 3/4 or shorty I would probably have had a broken jaw and cheekbone, along with mangled skin.
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OMG are you ok? i am glad to hear that you dont have a broken jaw! how is your bike?
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Blimey Penguin, what happened? What sort of state are you in after that? Twenty miles an hour is plenty fast enough to kill someone if they hit badly. How is your neck? I'd get that checked out properly (and I don't just mean at A&E).Penguin wrote:I know this is an old topic but I've been reading through and decided to add my own experiences incase anyone is bothered (First post btw
I'd just like to add that I'm not an experienced rider at all
Well in England, at least with the people I ride with, its generally accepted that you wear a full face helmet. I've always worn one and always will, even for town riding. You just never know when an accident will happen.
Last saturday I came off about 4 miles from home, in a village near me, and hit a wall head on. Because of the way the crash happened my head hit the wall on the chinbar and visor. I was only doing about 20mph, but had I been wearing a 3/4 or shorty I would probably have had a broken jaw and cheekbone, along with mangled skin.
The same applies to all my other safety gear; If I hadn't been wearing my jacket I'd have badly cut if not broken an arm, and the same applies to my hands if I hadn't been wearing a helmet.
To me not wearing full safety gear just doesn't make sense. Everyone, no matter how experienced, careful, slow etc. can crash at any time. I've personally seen the best biker I know crash. All IMO of course, if you know the risks and accept them then I'm not gonna preach at you (even though I just have
Safe riding
Take care
Richard
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“Man has no right to kill his brother. It is no excuse that he does so in uniform: he only adds the infamy of servitude to the crime of murder.”
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Yeah I'm fine, the handlebars are bent, as is the footpeg. We've managed to bend the footpeg back into shape but not the handlebars. That plus new clocks is the only damage.
Suprisingly I was completely unharmed, apart from a tiny scratch to the left of my eye. The benefits of being young I suppose Thanks for the concern though guys.
Having felt the force at twenty mph, I can't understand why you'd risk anything other than a full face. From now on I'm wearing full protection, even if it is just down to the shops...
Penguin
Suprisingly I was completely unharmed, apart from a tiny scratch to the left of my eye. The benefits of being young I suppose
Thanks for the concern though guys. Having felt the force at twenty mph, I can't understand why you'd risk anything other than a full face. From now on I'm wearing full protection, even if it is just down to the shops...
Penguin