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#11 Post by fireguzzi » Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:55 am

I would say if it has the stock wheel and swing arm and everything is easy to return to stock it may be a good deal. But if it has been modded in anyway to accommodate the fat tire I would stay away. ( I don't know if you have to mod it to get that big a tire on or not.) Tha'ts just me though. I'm a function over form type of guy.
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#12 Post by BuzZz » Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:02 pm

The fatter tire will affect the handling some.

Personally, a fat tire on a sporty bike is a sure sign the owner is not someone I would want to buy a bike from. But that's me.....
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#13 Post by Wrider » Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:52 pm

BuzZz wrote:The fatter tire will affect the handling some.

Personally, a fat tire on a sporty bike is a sure sign the owner is not someone I would want to buy a bike from. But that's me.....
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#14 Post by bandit600 » Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:54 pm

So the owner's husband seems to have taken it upon himself to dress the bike up with all sorts of unnecessary "aesthetic" mods for his wife. There's a 210 tire on the back. Glued on carbon fiber looking decals. Some pointy ben-hur-chariot-gladiator spikey looking bar end sliders and unrecognizable aftermarket slip-on cans. Also she sent one high res photo of the instrument panel and it looks like the fork tubes have been raised up in the trees. Most of these are fixable but who knows what else got changed in the name of aesthetics.

I think I'm gonna pass on this one. Thanks for the responses everyone!
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#15 Post by sapaul » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:35 am

I have ridden both and can give you some basics of how they feel.

The SV has typical low down grunt and needs to be worked some to get the best out of it. Better suited to point and squirt robot to robot type riding than the 1050. The ergo's are good but not as good as the ST. Not as stable with pillions and not forgiving if you have a sloppy throttle wrist. Long distance riding will see you with a sore butt and wrists. Plus points are loads of power and very responsive, plus a bullet proof engine and warehouse loads of aftermarket.

The ST is more refined and the power delivery more forgiving. The balance point of this bike makes it feel much lighter than it is. The fairings give you weather protection and a higher stability at speed. A better tourer and pillion bike. Not too shabby around the track either. Triumph have gotten much better engines over the past few years and not many peeps let their ST's go.

I had the choice at a recent girls only track day where I was booked to give pillion rides, my choices were. A zx10, a ZX14, a Kawa Z750, an R6 an Aprilla Pegaso or the Triumph 1050 ST.

My choice was the Triumph, never had a moments doubt the whole day, and I had some real heavyweights on the back, some gripped me so hard I still have the bruises.

Both good bikes but be careful of the SV's that have been modified. Stay away from those.
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#16 Post by bandit600 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:09 am

Sapaul, thanks for that rundown it was definitely useful. I like both bikes equally for different reasons as you stated.

Curious, was the point of having the pillion riders at the track to show them what the best lines to take through different turns are or was it purely just the experience of being on a track? I've never seen or heard of that before.
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#17 Post by bandit600 » Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:45 am

This looks like a good find. This person has added performance parts out the wazoo on this bike. He claims he wanted a Ducati but couldn't afford one and did this instead. Seems to me he probably could have gotten an S4R for the price of all this extra stuff. I think without a proper dyno tune a lot of this stuff is useless but as long as it doesn't hurt performance I guess I don't mind.

What do you think? Also did they ever sell 2005 SV1000S in black?

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#18 Post by bandit600 » Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:49 am

Also I would like to thank the forum for keeping me politically correct and automatically changing "Timing R e t a r d Eliminator" to "Timing mentally challenged eliminator" :D
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#19 Post by fireguzzi » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:26 am

As long as the Power Commander has been mapped correctly for all that stuff on it I would say all those things are a good thing.

I'd rather have all that then a stretched swing arm fat tire and polished/chromed wheels and all that "poo poo".
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#20 Post by BuzZz » Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:05 am

I went on a bit of a rant about the censor-bot when I got my T.R.E. too. :lol:

Strange that he dropped $350 on a Power Commander for the bike, he hasn't done anything to the engine that would require a re-map. The stock computer can handle simple changes like an air filter and slip-on's. Still, I guess it's nice if you ever want to put a full exhaust or a set of cams in it.

If he still has the stock parts (some of that stuff he's got on there just screams 'Poser Squid Boy') and you can put the bike back to a condition that is not embarrassing to be seen on, it may be worth at least looking at. If you're interested in an SV, that is. He seems to have taken care of it, but you'll have to see the bike to know for sure.

SV's did come in black, at least in some years, but I'm not sure what those years were.
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