Wizzard wrote:Maybe because I have been doing it for so many years that I am unable to understand what is so tough for a group of "Bikers" to unscrew/unlock the gas cap and look inside when you first start your scoot and it's warming up , and see exactly how much gas is in there . Come on peeps , what's so hard about that?
Wizzard
i can look in my tank and see gas sloshing around when its down to about .3 gallons and it looks like theres alot of gas(but its not). theres no way to gauge accurately by looking in my tank, its got to many curves and hidding places for the gas to know what the level is by looking down through the small hole.
my last bike was worse a few inchs from the hole was something(i dont know what it was probally where the frame was). but you could only see 2 inchs in then it slopes to the sides blocking your view. id rock the bike around to see if i could slosh gas into view. not a very good way to gauge your fuel level either i think.
why cant their be some preasure system, the tank should fill with air and based on how much air the bike has to pump into the tank(or vaccum in) should tell it how much of the tank is air/gas.... but im not rocket surgeon so who knows if thats possible lol
iwannadie wrote:why cant their be some preasure system, the tank should fill with air and based on how much air the bike has to pump into the tank(or vaccum in) should tell it how much of the tank is air/gas.... but im not rocket surgeon so who knows if thats possible lol
Mine uses a mechanical float. Airplanes use something similar to your suggestion. They send an electric current through the tank and measure the existing fuel by the change in electrical characteristics (can't remember if it's capacitance or inductance).
iwannadie wrote:why cant their be some preasure system, the tank should fill with air and based on how much air the bike has to pump into the tank(or vaccum in) should tell it how much of the tank is air/gas.... but im not rocket surgeon so who knows if thats possible lol
Mine uses a mechanical float. Airplanes use something similar to your suggestion. They send an electric current through the tank and measure the existing fuel by the change in electrical characteristics (can't remember if it's capacitance or inductance).
not sure if electricity + average joe + gas, sounds very safe though. im sure in a controlled situation like an airplane its great. maybe a strip that goes down the inside of the tank that when wet registers some censor, gas drys pretty quick i assume so even with heavy leaning the censor could dry and reset in a short time would be cool
Then by all means do what I do and keep your tank/tanks topped off every chance you get .
Keep it simple .
Regards, Wizzard
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Sevulturus wrote:Average bike gets about 20km per liter. That's all you need to know.
that doesnt help when your bike happens to be the one that gets 15km and you run out 5km away from a gas station thinking about taht 20km average. nor does it help if your average happens to be 20km, but one week you decide to get on the gas alot more and manage to then only go 15km. pushing a bike sucks, thats all you really need to know.
A smart rider keeps track of his milage, partially so he doesn't run out of gas in a bad spot. But mostly because dropping milage is an indication that there is a problem with the engine. It's a good way to identify a problem while it's still a cheap fix.
If you haven't got the patience to pay attention to it, you deserve to run out.
Of course I'm generalizing from a single example here, but everyone does that. At least I do.
Sevulturus wrote:A smart rider keeps track of his milage, partially so he doesn't run out of gas in a bad spot. But mostly because dropping milage is an indication that there is a problem with the engine. It's a good way to identify a problem while it's still a cheap fix.
If you haven't got the patience to pay attention to it, you deserve to run out.
you miss the point... one week you may get 100miles per tank(vague nunbers) the next you may only get 75 miles. looking at only the miles is not a good way to judge from my experience. too much relys on your riding style. sure if you throttle the same way every tank of gas youll get the same miles per tank. i however some days/weeks take it slow dont e ver go high in the rpms, the next day/week i may rev the rpms to the redline. that Effects your miles per gallon. so saying 'oh last tank i get that number of miles so im guaranteed that number of miles Every tank' isnt smart.
i dont think any one deserves to run out of gas. but then again if only we were all perfect.
Sure it is, you figure out the minimum number of miles that you'll get per tank on normal (Hard) riding, and always fill up when you start to get close. It's not that tough. A little forethought will mean never having to push that bike down the side of the road.
If the shortest distance you could possibly travel on a tank in the worst conditions is 75 miles, then you should be looking around for gas at around 70 miles. The bike runs just as well on the top half of the tank as it does the bottem half, and it doesn't cost any more to keep the top half filled...
Of course I'm generalizing from a single example here, but everyone does that. At least I do.
Sevulturus wrote:Sure it is, you figure out the minimum number of miles that you'll get per tank on normal (Hard) riding, and always fill up when you start to get close. It's not that tough. A little forethought will mean never having to push that bike down the side of the road.
If the shortest distance you could possibly travel on a tank in the worst conditions is 75 miles, then you should be looking around for gas at around 70 miles. The bike runs just as well on the top half of the tank as it does the bottem half, and it doesn't cost any more to keep the top half filled...
you miss the point so i wont bother anymore like always, never saw the point in you even replying to my posts let alone me replying back lol