Overcoming fear after a crash?

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Re: Overcoming fear after a crash?

#41 Unread post by freebird73 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:53 pm

Sapaul, I was able to get out on the road for a little while, and your tips were GREAT! Thank you so much for the advice and the link it helped a lot!
I was able to get through the turns a lot easier than the last couple of tries, it really made a difference. :D

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#42 Unread post by sapaul » Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:59 am

AW, man, tears in my eyes. I am so glad I could make a difference. PM me if you experiance other problems that I may be able to help with.
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Re: Overcoming fear after a crash?

#43 Unread post by MmeMagpie » Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:29 pm

My best advice: have a plan.

In 1994 I had my first, and only, accident. T'was a wily patch of gravel in a tight right turn. The instant I felt the bike start to slip out from under me, I jumped off. I had played this, and other accident scenarios, in my head when I started riding.

This happened before I knew about MSF training. I've had several near misses since then, but I can thank that training for teaching me how to make them just near misses.

I still feel a twinge when I see gravel in the road.
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Re: Overcoming fear after a crash?

#44 Unread post by Hot granny » Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:48 am

I found this site after googling " how to gain confidence after a crash".
I crashed my vulcan about 6 weeks ago ( coming out of our alley, I hit gravel, spun, lost control, paniced, tried to avoid a half ton and jumped a cedar tree and landed on a front lawn....stellar apperently) and having trouble getting back on. My husband even went and got me a smaller 83 Honda Magna 500 thats easier to control, and I still am having trouble. I tried to get on and get out of the alley and I froze. Couldnt do it. So he took me to a parking lot and I slowly got the feel again for it, but I am still feeling like I just cant do this, and crashing scenarios go through my head. I guess the thing to do is just keep trying....after reading through these posts, I realise my feelings are normal. Even though everyone just keep saying " get back on and go". I only started riding last year. ( I am 44 and up until then I have not driven a moterbike at all. I have always been the passenger, which I do love) So I am in no way an experienced rider.

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Re: Overcoming fear after a crash?

#45 Unread post by pchast » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:28 pm

Can you find an off road or drive of stone to practice on?

I get a lot of comments about my driveway but I practiced
on it and so its a caution but not a problem since its familiar.
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Re: Overcoming fear after a crash?

#46 Unread post by sapaul » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:49 am

Hi Hot Granny, If I may offer some advice that may help. With both men and women that I have assisted that have had accidents, there is a common and normal trait. The same one you mention.

Please try to turn that same visualisation from the negative to the positive. Pick a location a short ride away, your favourite coffee shop for example, and then visualise yourself outside the shop on your bike. Visualise yourself riding on that route, visualise riding the bike as you have been taught. Then go for that ride and keep the visualisation going.

We have a little saying here when we teach.

"Look there, Go there"

Think more about where you want to be than how you will get there. Most of what you have learned will come automatically. Good luck.
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Re: Overcoming fear after a crash?

#47 Unread post by Hot granny » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:11 am

sapaul wrote:Hi Hot Granny, If I may offer some advice that may help. With both men and women that I have assisted that have had accidents, there is a common and normal trait. The same one you mention.

Please try to turn that same visualisation from the negative to the positive. Pick a location a short ride away, your favourite coffee shop for example, and then visualise yourself outside the shop on your bike. Visualise yourself riding on that route, visualise riding the bike as you have been taught. Then go for that ride and keep the visualisation going.

We have a little saying here when we teach.

"Look there, Go there"

Think more about where you want to be than how you will get there. Most of what you have learned will come automatically. Good luck.
Thank You! Yes that is exactly what I am doing, just visualising myself doing it successfully. I struggle with clutch /throttle ratio, so I have just been on the bike in the driveway playing around with that. The visualise myself succesfully stopping and starting. It makes me feel better to hear other stories. I appreciate your advice and I really do want to ride again and become a confident rider.

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Re: Overcoming fear after a crash?

#48 Unread post by sapaul » Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:48 am

Any time, feel free to pm me if you want to chat, no strings attached. It took my wife 4 years to get to where she is and she now out rides most guys on her 600 RR.

If you are struggling with the clutch control. Get the bike on level ground

Do not touch the throttle, keep it on idle. Practice letting the clutch out just on idle, and then pull the clutch in and repeat until you are "walking the bike".
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Re: Overcoming fear after a crash?

#49 Unread post by Hot granny » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:04 pm

Thanks Sapaul, I will give that a try too! Next week though.... off to have a fun weekend visiting the grankids. Taking so many b'day presents that we have to leave the bike at home!

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Re: Overcoming fear after a crash?

#50 Unread post by blues2cruise » Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:35 am

Hot Granny...six weeks is not a very long time to be back to %100. Cut yourself some slack...be patient, keep practicing and one day you will feel good about riding again.
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Re: Overcoming fear after a crash?

#51 Unread post by clutch » Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:12 am

Hi, I'm the original poster on this thread. I just wanted to say that since making that post, I'm riding again and having a blast! I've even upgraded bikes a few times since the crash, currently riding a Harley Davidson Street Glide. I'm considering switching to a Sport Touring style bike (Kawasaki Concours, perhaps?) just to get more experience with different types of bikes.

Thanks to all who had something to say on the topic.

The biggest thing that helped me overcome my fears was the visualization techniques described above. I'd visualize the place/circumstance where I crashed (couldn't keep tight enough on a left curve), and imagine successfully making it through. To this day, I still hesitate slightly when I see a left curve. So I slow down a bit more than everyone else, and really concentrate on looking at where I want to go. "Turn head and LOOK!" It's amazing when you LOOK and focus at the right place, it's like the bike magically knows how to get there.

I'm still practicing and still learning. I'm glad to come back to the forum and post this update -- I'd forgotten all about posting it years ago.

I hope this helps anyone else out there who's had a scare and needs help getting back on the bike again. Riding is fun, and it doesn't have to be scary. Forgive yourself, take your time, and let yourself slowly grow back into it.

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Re: Overcoming fear after a crash?

#52 Unread post by pchast » Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:40 pm

Glad to hear it.
Thanks.
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Re: Overcoming fear after a crash?

#53 Unread post by sapaul » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:28 am

Fantastic to hear, now embrace that little bit of fear, it will keep you safe
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Re: Overcoming fear after a crash?

#54 Unread post by perry7 » Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:26 am

It was hard to begin again after the last time my face was so close with the street- the only thing between us is my helmet... lost breathing for a while blah blah blah... but i'm on ride again... and i think i would do it over and over again... well women in love lol..
stay tune :)

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